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I Live Under A Black Cloud! (the crypt collapses)(16 posts)

I Live Under A Black Cloud! (the crypt collapses)BigLeadOutGuy
Dec 13, 2001 4:03 PM
Hey all!
I am having quite the week I tell you...Today at work I slipped and fell down a flight of stairs! As if my fall off the scaffolding wasnt enough...right?
oh boy...i tell you...if it wasnt for bad luck Id have none at all! =)
IM still torn between a dream plus and a OCVL...or is it OLCV...I dunno what the heck its called anymore...the carbon trek know what I mean!!!
Its OCLV lol :) (nm)Allen az
Dec 13, 2001 4:30 PM
Oh yeah.... Here's a pic of the OCLV I'm gonna get....Allen az
Dec 13, 2001 4:43 PM
Notice the SLR seat, Record crank, shifters, and Zepp XL stem? It's a copy & paste. he he he
Ferrari or MercedesDog
Dec 13, 2001 4:39 PM
The Dream is a Ferrari, and the Trek a Mercedes sports car. Both good, but a little different. That's how a Dream owner described it to me (well, he was comparing the Dream to a C40 -- so to the extent a Trek ride like a C40...).

Not sure the analogy is right on, but makes a little sense.

Maybe wait until the bad luck streak is over before getting on a new bike.

It will be forever!BigLeadOutGuy
Dec 13, 2001 5:59 PM
If i wait for my bad luck streak to end...ill never get a new ride! hahaha
i have endless bad luck! hahaha
Things come in 3'sgrzy
Dec 13, 2001 6:05 PM
Now snap out of it and fly right! ;-)
Dec 13, 2001 6:08 PM
The OCLV is seriously lacking in the soul dept. It feels like a light plastic bike, not that this is a crime.

You gotta get out and ride everything you can get your mits on. Don't be afraid to ask people how they like their bikes and after you're done listening to them go on and on ask if you can ride it. It will be hard for them to say no after such a setup.
Then buy a Look!look271
Dec 13, 2001 6:09 PM
I've ridden the Trek; buy a Look. You won't regret it. Plus you won't be another of the lemmings rushing off to buy Lance's bike. Be an individual; get something different (and better!).BTW-hope your "Bad luck streak in dancing school" ends soon! (If you are not a Warren Zevon fan, my apologies!)
'ave you considered...Ahimsa
Dec 13, 2001 6:15 PM
...wearing your helmet all day long?

Just a thought.


After you have....Jon
Dec 13, 2001 6:28 PM
taken a time out to review the safe practices and procedures portion of your company's
safety manual, consider also the virtues and seductions of a Calfee. Whatever you do,
follow grzy's advice and buy the bike that speaks to your soul---even if it is a Trek!
re: I Live Under A Black Cloud! (the crypt collapses)CT1
Dec 13, 2001 8:13 PM
Aren't you something like 220#+??? I think you'll break or at least bend the OCLV like a noodle.

The Dream+ is a fairly strong frame. Plus it won't have a "dead feel" like the Trek carbon. My test ride on the 5200 was very dissapointing..... I.e. didn't like the wooden feel.

BTW: My LOOK KG doesn't feel like that at all so I have to chaulk it up to Trek's fab process or materials. ???

Yipes!Dream plus
Dec 14, 2001 12:39 PM
If you are actually over 200lbs you might want to consider another frame. My Dream Plus came with a weight restriction. I think it was 90Kg ( 198lbs ). That said I love my Dream Plus roadbike, and lust after a Dream Plus Cross bike ( just like Lonefrontranger's ). Colnago's geometry seems really different than Treks so make sure your new frame fits.
Dec 14, 2001 9:24 AM
Sorry about the luck. I've been lurking a lot lately, and my sympathies on the dumping, the accident rate, and so on.

My thoughts:

I spent several years as a Trek-sponsored rider. Very grateful for the cheap ride, their bikes are incredibly good, affordable product and superb racing bikes, but... The carbon frame does indeed ride like a block of wood. A fast, light block of wood, but there it is. Dead and soulless. Your results may vary - I'm an itty bitty girl so maybe it's just the crazy geometry of the small size plus my light weight talking. But I'll still second and third those who mentioned Calfee if you want a sweet carbon frame but can't quite shell out for a C-40.

I have a Dream Plus with Record and it is the most exquisite bike I've ever ridden, and I've ridden a lot of them in my decade-plus of racing. If you've never ridden a Colnago down a long, twisty mountain descent, I can tell you the handling is absolutely telepathic. And I can literally spend hours just gazing at the paint job. I love my Dream so much I went out and bought his little brother the Dream Cross for playing in the slop - IF I can bear to get that lovely paint job dirty, that is :)
Weight limits?! Now I feel like a fatass...and still no luck!BigLeadOutGuy
Dec 14, 2001 2:30 PM
Oh man
maybe this is the hat trick!
Im a fatass! Is there really a wieght limit on the dream plus?! Dammit that totally stinks...Why dont they make bikes for people 6`4``+ and weigh more than 200 pounds?
blah blah blah
now I totally feel like a fatass!
i think im gunna get the dream plus anyways...i dont ride heavy...I ride a lot lighter than I am...or at least im trying to convince myself =)
well I just got home from work and I didnt get hurt today! yay! im stoked about that
but i gotta get in a ride...ill be back later
and thanks again for all the info
be safe
stay stoked
Weight limits?! Now I feel like a fatass...and still no luck!CT1
Dec 14, 2001 6:25 PM
I'm NOT aware of a weight limit on the Dream+. The frame realllly is quite strong by modern standards. It's a good 200gm hevier than some and that weight has to be for the better in your case.

**** Also the Flash fork has a steel steerer tube which IMHO is a MUST at your weight.

As LFR said.... the paint is quite fine!

If you do decide to go with the Dream checkout Total and Maestro. I've had very good dealings with both.
Weight limits?! Now I feel like a fatass...and still no luck!Dream plus
Dec 17, 2001 9:54 AM
I'll try to dig up my Warrenty card to get the limits. I remember ribbing my friend telling him he wasn't allowed on it. My Dream Plus is the Altec 2 + tubing version and they may be Airplane tubing now. Maybe that makes a difference. Also I've heard that the warrenty is not all that great anyway so why worry about voiding it? The frame sure seems stiff and strong enough and is not stupid light.I got mine from Total Cycling with no hassles last March.The Master Light steel frame has been recommended for "larger" riders and comes with the "Paintjob".