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Need help ... Ergo or STI ?(17 posts)

Need help ... Ergo or STI ?jkh
Dec 12, 2001 4:34 PM
I am putting together a new bike and can't decide on Campy or Shimano group. I currently have a Schwinn with Ultegra group and feel very comfortable with the STI shifter/brake levers. I have no experience with the Ergo shifter and have a concern about shifting. My major concern is that I have small hands and not sure how I can reach to the shifters when my hands are in the drops. Do I need to twist my wrist to reach it? Or Ergo shifter is just not for people with small hands. Any comments are appreciated. Thanks.
At the risk of re-igniting old threads...Elefantino
Dec 12, 2001 6:03 PM
Go with what you are used to. Unless you plan to rebuild your components (you can't rebuild Shimano), I'd stay with Ultegra or Dura-Ace.

re: Need help ... Ergo or STI ?I Love Shimano
Dec 12, 2001 6:05 PM
Test ride a bike with Campy shifters, I think it would be best too if the bike had handlebars similar to yours. Personally, I do not like the way the Campy lever feels in my hands. It may be different for you though.

From what I've heard around here, Campy shifters are more suitable to riders with large hands, while STIs are for smaller hands.
re: Need help ... Ergo or STI ?slow-ron
Dec 12, 2001 7:19 PM
regardless of hand size I think the Campys are easier to shift from the drops than my old ultegra. I've got big, fat hands however, and regardless of what any of us tells you, you've got to try each system out to see which works for you. I like Campy beacuse they're comfy for me and I like the idea of being able to rebuild ergo. That being said, I think it's much more affordable, easier to find Shimano parts (I don't even have a convenient LBC that stocks Campy) and the parts groups are more interchangeable than Campy.
If you get Campy you can have a 10sp instead of Shimano 9sp nm.Dutchy
Dec 12, 2001 8:05 PM
Thanks for all the comments.jkh
Dec 12, 2001 9:29 PM
Modolo MorphosBAi9302010
Dec 12, 2001 9:35 PM
I currently use a pair of Modolo Morphos on my Cannondale and they are compatable with every type of drive train. They work great except when climbing hard out of the saddle and they are the lightest type of brake lever/shifter, except for maybe Campy Record Egro levers.
how often do you change?Diggler
Dec 13, 2001 6:47 AM
all I've ever heard about those is that they are cr@p
how often do you change?BAi9302010
Dec 13, 2001 9:05 PM
I change pretty often and the only time I've had trouble with them is when I standing and climbing really hard(lots of chain tension.).
re: Need help ... Ergo or STI ?mackgoo
Dec 13, 2001 3:20 AM
Personaly I think Ergo's are better for people with small hands, you don't have to reach all the way out to the brake lever and screw with it. But in a case such as your self were you need a concensus to guide you, play it safe, go with Shimano. You'll never know what your missing.
small hands too...C-40
Dec 13, 2001 3:55 AM
I've got small hands, but I switched from STI to ergo in '95 and never regretted it. Shifting won't be a problem no matter how small you hands are, since the shift lever is behind the brake lever. The thumb buttons are also easy to reach.

What can be a problem is reaching the brake lever. You may need to use traditional curved bars to decrease the reach, if your fingers are really short. The best anatomic bar design that I've found is the Deda 215, followed by ITM. I'm currently using Easton EC-90 bars. Their reach is a little longer than Deda or ITM. Positioning ergo levers can be tricky the first time. The old rule of positioning the end of the brake lever in line with the bottom of the drops doesn't work. You should position the portion of the brake hood where the hand rests, level or pointed slightly up. This will place the end of the brake lever as much as an inch above the bottom of the drops.
you know what small hands mean...Diggler
Dec 13, 2001 6:45 AM
small gloves
means short fingers(nm)C-40
Dec 13, 2001 9:03 AM
I thought that Campy looked unwieldy, until I tried it.bill
Dec 13, 2001 6:10 AM
Now, how much of what I perceive is because I've been seduced and how much is objective, well, who really cares? At this point, though, I much prefer the thumb shifter and not having my brake lever be my shifter and vice versa.
Try them. Try them and you may, I say.
How much $$$ ya' got?grzy
Dec 13, 2001 9:15 AM
Ergo is going to set you back significantly more cake - then there's things like chain tools for 10 speed.

Only you can really tell if it's going to work for your hands.
How much $$$ ya' got?mackgoo
Dec 13, 2001 9:58 AM
You can get 9sp, although it will cost as much as 10sp. But you would be in the light.
Yes, definitely.djg
Dec 13, 2001 11:11 AM
You should definitely get Ergo or STI.

But seriously folks: both systems work fine. Each has its own little ergonomic eccentricities. Try both, and buy what feels good. Or if both feel fine, go for whatever seems a better deal at the time.