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Conti Supersonics(12 posts)

Conti Supersonicsmorey
Dec 9, 2001 6:38 AM
I have had 5 flats on the front, 1 on the rear in just three weeks. The last flat was a complete blow out causing me to lose control, and went down. Total mileage-570. I am shit canning these tires. They came with my bike. However, I am trying to decide whether to get Michelin Axial Pro's or Tufo Clincher tubulars. What do you say?
Michelin A/P's12x23
Dec 9, 2001 7:22 AM
I haven't tried the Tufo's, but switched from Conti GP 3000's to the A/P's about 1-1/2 years ago. You can get them from labicicletta for ~$300 in a quantity of 10 tires. They've been very durable for me and ride almost as well as my Vittoria tubies.
Yes to Michelinsbike_junkie
Dec 9, 2001 8:03 AM
Michelin A/Ps have been surprisingly durable for me. One flat in the last 800 miles, and I swear I go through some broken glass that I can't avoid and I think I'm gonna flat, but I don't. They have a supple ride and sticky cornering, pretty much an ideal clincher. Only drawback is they don't last as long as some other tires, but it's a performance tire and that's how it goes. Have fun!
training or racing?Dog
Dec 9, 2001 9:05 AM
for racing, I'd stick with the AP's; for training, you'll get tons more flat-free miles with the Tufo's (which are twice as heavy, BTW)

Supersonics are purely for short, supported races; they are paper thin and seem to have about the same puncture resistance as a balloon

Dog
Heresy: They both are goodMe Dot Org
Dec 9, 2001 10:02 AM
I know this is a heresy akin to being neutral in the Shimano/Campy wars, but I've tried both Axial Pros and Conti GP3000s, and I think they are both good. The Michelins are a little more prone to pick up road debris, but their stickiness gives slightly better grip.
Heresy: They both are goodDog
Dec 9, 2001 1:07 PM
I think he was asking about Supersonics, not GP3000's; I think AP's and GP3000's are comparable
Axial Prostarwheel
Dec 10, 2001 5:22 AM
Hey, didn't you check out Chuck's Bikes? (www.chucksbikes.com) Or is he out of Axial Pros now? Last time I checked, he had green Axial Pros for $18.50 and blacks for $22.50. ( I ordered 3 tires and got them in about a week.) For that price, you can use them for training or whatever. I've had very good luck with APs and rarely ever get flats.

As Dog mentioned, Conti Supersonics are purely a racing tire. The GP 3000s will wear much better, comparable to Michi APs, and handle about the same.
Axial Prosmorey
Dec 10, 2001 5:32 AM
I ordered 6 sets of Michelin Axial Pro's black from Chucks Bikes today!
something else to check toopeloton
Dec 10, 2001 6:53 AM
Morey-

You have probably done this, but I would check your rim tape as well. With that many flats, it may be an eyelet is exposed to the tube on the inside or some other compromise has been made in the tape. Just something to check out to make sure that you don't get any more flats. Might not be a bad idea to replace the tape anyway while you have the tires off. I like Velox white cloth FWIW.
Axial Pros - Sold Out!Crankist
Dec 10, 2001 7:25 AM
I just called.
Mike
Axial Pros - Sold Out!morey
Dec 10, 2001 8:06 AM
I know, I got the last ones! Sorry!
Axial Pros - Sold Out!weiwentg
Dec 10, 2001 8:54 PM
aaargh!!!!!