|Ksyrium or Sestriere||mosovich|
Dec 7, 2001 8:45 PM
|If you could buy either at the same price, which would you buy?|
|Mavic v. Rolf?||Tony Edwards|
Dec 8, 2001 12:15 AM
|I would get the Ksyriums, hands-down, at the same price. Actually they are readily available for $400-450 online, which is actually quite a bit cheaper than the prices I have seen on the Rolfs.|
Dec 9, 2001 8:44 PM
|The Sestriers's are very unreliable! ever wonder why you don't see pros using them. Get the Ksyriums, hands down. If you really want Rolf's look at the vector pro's, good wheels. Have had both and rode each for a year and now use the Ksyriums, but that personal preference.
|re: Ksyrium or Sestriere||merckx56|
Dec 8, 2001 5:33 AM
|get the K's! i bought a pair of ex-neutral support wheels directly from mavic about a year ago. they were used for support in europe for a year and i've ridden and raced them with great regularity. they've never gone out of true, are perfectly round and only been touched once by a mechanic(tension). you can get 'em new from totalcycling for under $500.|
Dec 8, 2001 7:24 AM
|As I understand it, Rolfs of recent vintage were made by Trek. Trek and Rolf must have had a falling out because Trek now sells its wheels under the Bontrager name. While they are similar in design, they differ from what Trek sold under the Rolf name.
As far as I can tell, Rolf is not presently in business separately from Trek, but there was a web site somewhere suggesting Rolf was working on product for 2002. If Rolf gets back in business, it isn't clear whether it owns the old product line or Trek does. Your Sestriere could become an orphan product with no manufacturer support.
Perhaps it is not too big a deal with a wheel, but I would need a much better deal on the Rolf's to consider them over the Mavic product which clearly has considerable manufacturer support.
|re: Ksyrium or Sestriere||tr|
Dec 8, 2001 7:55 AM
|I had this choice and took Ksyrium's at lower european price. From what i have read the rolf riders say, the Sestriere is the least desirable of the Rolf wheels. I have read them say it is not as durable as the others.|
|Sestrieres vs. K's||Xeke|
Dec 8, 2001 12:30 PM
|I have a set of each that get moved around between bikes.
The Sestrieres are noticeably lighter than the K's and ride like it. Perhaps as climbing wheels for a fly-weight, they might be okay (I'm 6 feet/mid 170's). Early on, the front wheel popped a couple of nipples, so the LBS replaced them all (at my request/their dime) and they've been problem free since (4k miles).
The K's feel considerably more durable and are quieter in both the freehub and the wind.
|re: Ksyrium or Sestriere||morey|
Dec 9, 2001 6:45 AM
|Definitely the Kysyrium. My wife and I have had Kysyriums for almost 1 year, no problems even after one spill.|
|re: Ksyrium or Sestriere||esbike|
Dec 9, 2001 9:13 PM
|I have the sestrieres and have never tried the kysriums, but have a few comments:
1. The pros use what they are paid to. I doubt they would use something dramatically inferior that would put them at a disadvantage, but the truth is there isn't all that much difference between the top products. In any case, a pro is not likely to be concerned about a product's durability given that there are cars zipping around them constantly filled with replacement parts. Don't buy something just because a pro uses it. The same people who say "pros use kysriums" and therefore you should to, make exactly the same point I'm making when it comes to trek oclv bikes.
2. if you look at the weights, the sestrieres are significantly lighter. If that matters to you in the kind of riding you're doing, then consider them. I have not had any problems whatsoever regarding stability or durability with the sestrieres. Then again, some may think that is because of my weight (138 lbs).
3. Consider an alternative. The new race-lite bontrager wheels that come on the trek postal bikes use a very similar spoke pairing as the rolfs, use aerodynamic bladed spokes (like rolf pros but not sestrieres) and are only slightly heavier than the sestrieres.