|Suggestions for a fixed gear bike needed!||look271|
Dec 5, 2001 6:57 PM
|I've got the SS/fixte bug and I need help, quick! (No, it's not because of Doug; I've been mulling over this for a while.)Any suggestions on a decent fixte for cheap? Looking to spend $500-$750. I saw a KHS flite 100. Looks sweet and it's steel. Also have seen the Fuji track bikes; they seem to be a decent bike, too, but alot of guys around here have'em and I like to be "different." Other suggestions? Thanks!|
|im looking to try something really different.||53 x 18|
Dec 5, 2001 7:11 PM
|would like to build a fixed gear with the running gear (ie chain, crankset and fixed cog) on the left side of my bike.
dont see why i cant. do you?
what if i wanted to build it with a flip flop? would the freewheel cog be able to threaded on in reverse to work on the left?
bored? yes. determined? no.
any problems i might encounter?
it would be a fun ride. and will be built on a road frame for single riding/commuting and as a grocery getter.
after i get bored of it in a week i will sell it to you.
|You have too much time on your hands, don't you?||look271|
Dec 5, 2001 7:45 PM
|Interesting. If you had the crank flipped over, wouldn't it cause you to pedal backwards, thus making the experience even more unique?! :-) Keep us posted on your endeavor.|
|am i missing something?||53 x 18|
Dec 5, 2001 7:53 PM
|what does fixed gear mean? whether the crank is on the right or left doesn't really matter. cranks are not specifically designed to go in one direction or are they?
come on you asked for something different?
ive yet to see a bike with all the working bits on the left but with a fixed i dont think this matter's.
think about it. im asking for ideas and points that i may not have considered.
Dec 5, 2001 8:11 PM
|I was kidding!!! Would work I suppose. Just jerkin' your chain.
|no problem with chain jerking||53 x 18|
Dec 5, 2001 8:34 PM
|im the biggest proponent.
and it worked as i, for a minute, was faced with thinking here is someone with some refinement and knowledge as he rides a look (NICE) yet seriously thinks pedals go in the one direction. you had me. ;-)
im prepared to soldier on with my idea though and will hopefully post it in the new year.
if you do find an old frame. pay a visit to chucksbikes.com. they have an assortment of bits that could be used to build a cheap fixie.
suntour thread on hubs $25
sugino 175mm cranks arms $15
ukai 700c rims $2
cowhorns for $15
as well as having a track frame cheap but only in a 55cm size
from there you can visit excel for a 42 tooth chainring for $10
fixed tooths and chainring bolts aplenty. sachs track chains.
without spending a whole lot you can have a very rideable fixed or single with mostly new parts.
i had a bianchi pista and it was a shame that it was too big for me but i bought it used and sold it for a tidy sum. i like the idea of using a road frame as i can tinker around with it for different purposes.
|only if you don't use double-sided pedals||Jack S|
Dec 6, 2001 5:45 AM
|have had a look at some options||53 x 18|
Dec 6, 2001 5:54 AM
|thanks to rusty pointing out this in the components section i had a look around at some options. never having used spd's or speedplay's i though of going an old school route from rivendell.
what i am looking for is some info from tech minded folk on whether a bmx type freewheel will need a lockring to attach and hold. a flip-flop would be great.
thanks for the post lower down. i know im not breaking new ground but as i said building one be would be fun.
|try thinking about it...||Jack S|
Dec 6, 2001 6:11 AM
|Sure you can get a freewheel on the hub, but it won't engage or freewheel because it is backwards. So you gotta go fixed, in which case a track hub would probably be best since the cog will be trying to loosen itself when you pedal (not with backpedal pressure as when mounted on the conventional right side). Fixed-fixed track hubs are not common; Phil makes 'em but you gotta pay $$$.|
|i hear ya,||53 x 18|
Dec 6, 2001 6:40 AM
|the cost of that phil type hub will be more than i plan for the whole bike.
but jack i appreciate your help. one thing i may need help on as i get all confused when thinking about is whether a single freewheel cog can be threaded from both sides ie flipping it around to get the right direction. i dont have one to look at so i can only ask. i do anticipate probably needing to use a lockring if the torque is likely to loosen it.
Dec 6, 2001 10:57 AM
|doop has no job|
|Perhaps you should.....||Ahimsa|
Dec 5, 2001 7:50 PM
|....put together a bottom bracket that allows the pedals to rotate independently of one another. Then run a crankset and chain on both right and left to a flip flop w/ freewheel on one side and fixed on the other.
Now depending on which leg you pedal with you could be fixed or free! Or pedal both for a combo! Wow!
This could be especially cashy on a one of those funky 2WD bikes from Spicer. Maybe a tandem!!
2 wheel - dual chain - fixed/free - drive - tandem
Sheldon Brown would kneal before you and you'd be crowned "Emporer of Silly Ideas You Probably Should Not Bother With".
....or you could just do that lefty thing you mentioned. That would be keen too. ; )
|LOL ;-) nm||53 x 18|
Dec 5, 2001 7:55 PM
|it's been done||Jack S|
Dec 6, 2001 5:41 AM
|Cannondale might do it with the CAAD 8||vanzutas|
Dec 6, 2001 8:37 AM
|This is a pic I saw from interbike of a concept bike by Cannondale. They are going to try to make everything incompatible in the near future. this bike requires CODA deraileurs, shifters, headset, cranks and rear hub. I guess in the future they will try to specialize the brakes also.
|i guess thats the russian or hebrew model...||53 x 18|
Dec 6, 2001 8:46 AM
|with the special lettering. ;-)|
|re: Suggestions for a fixed gear bike needed!||gtx|
Dec 5, 2001 7:23 PM
|I'd just buy a 80s road bike with horizontal dropouts and convert it. You could probably have something pretty nice for $300-400. Either that or save up a bit more and get the new version of the Gunnar Street Dog.
|re: Suggestions for a fixed gear bike needed!||look271|
Dec 5, 2001 7:49 PM
|I've thought of going that route. I have an old Bianchi that I use for commuting that would fit the bill. However, I like it with it's retro suntour friction shifters and 6 speed rear hub. I'm sure that I can find an older frame somewhere and get a set of decent wheels. Thanks.|
|re: Suggestions for a fixed gear bike needed!||Djudd|
Dec 5, 2001 10:06 PM
|My commuter is a fix and I have a road bike that is a fix. I am currently mulling building a dream bike that will be a fix. May I suggest you not get a track bike and save yourself some money (not to mention the squirrelly handling) and find a good late 70's early 80"s frame with horizontal (or close to) dropouts. Buy a good fixed gear hub and good wheels. Build your own bike. Its better that way as you will never know a bike better than a fixed gear. Be sure of fit and be picky about components like saddle and crank arms. Riding a fix is a blast as long as there are no nagging problems with comfort or ride quality. I've found that a fix is not unlike a marriage that small quirk that was cute the first date becomes unbearable after a time.
|Surly Steamroller||Greg Taylor|
Dec 6, 2001 6:12 AM
|Nice frame and fork for about $400. Not terribly common, so you get bonus points for that. The new ones come with a seatstay brace that is drilled for a brake caliper, which is (in my opinion) a good thing if you use it in traffic. The rest of the components are up to you...|
|This is what I did...||EMR|
Dec 6, 2001 7:47 AM
|Find an old road frame, preferrably one with horizontal dropouts. I bought an old Colnago from a buddy that I used for my build. I built it up with mostly junk pile parts with the exception of a new rear wheel (flip/flop) and brake levers.|
Dec 6, 2001 7:50 AM
|Here is another pic. Don't rag on the old Scott Drop-in bars. Since the pic was taken I've replaced them. Eventually I'll get a matching front PhilWood hub and Colnago straightblade steel fork.|
Dec 6, 2001 8:11 AM
|I think I'll go the old road bike route. Cheaper is good, plus I have various parts laying around that I can use. I'll have my LBS do the wheels-they build great wheels.|
|Another suggestion to throw on the pile||brider|
Dec 6, 2001 8:38 AM
|Try an old track frame, but swap out the fork with a road fork so you have a front brake mount. This will do 2 things -- increase the safety because of the brake, and slacken the head tube agle which should increase steering stability. I've gotten a couple sets of Mavic track hubs for $50 at a Seattle LBS, but I think that was a fluke. You might be able to find similar near you.|
Dec 6, 2001 10:54 AM
|I actually bought an old Merckx frame to build as a fixie two years ago, but then the frame was so nice I felt kind of weird about it and ended up building it up as a normal geared bike with era appropriate stuff. Also, the Merckx has an extremely low bb, so I was concerned about hitting the pedals in corners. Hmmm, always wanted a Colnago...|
|re:This is what I did... does your friend...||Djudd|
Dec 6, 2001 8:51 AM
|have anymore Colnago frames lying around? I'll buy one. Really nice bike. I like the old Scott drop-ins...I'm old enough to remember when they were the rage. Especially after Lemond started using them in the '89 or '90 season.
|He's got a few bikes laying around...||EMR|
Dec 6, 2001 9:08 AM
|He doesn't have any more Colnago's but I think he's had a Ti GT road frame and some funky Dagger aluminum road frame on Ebay.
As he put it, he "unloaded" the Colnago and built up this sweet Raleigh track bike. The frame is a 70's NOS that looks brand new, not a scratch on it.
|re:He's got a few bikes laying around...||Djudd|
Dec 6, 2001 9:35 AM
|Another sweet bike. These days Raleighs and other great bikes never get enough respect. You have a very good friend|| |