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VO2 Max(24 posts)

VO2 Maxsurf
Dec 4, 2001 7:59 AM
I just had my VO2 max taken, from a job physical. Have any of you done this, what were your scores and how old and fit are you (i know it varies with age). I am just looking to get something to compare to. Also, what are your resting heart rates? Why does the VO2 Max really matter. Thanks for the answers
re: VO2 Maxmorey
Dec 4, 2001 8:04 AM
VO2 max - 152
Heart Rate @ rest - 59
Age - 58 yo
Fitness - I would say fair
re: VO2 Maxsurf
Dec 4, 2001 8:09 AM
Morey
The chart i saw rated VO2 Max from 1 - 80 with 60-80 being super athletes. Are there different ways to measure VO2 Max? What were your units, i think they are
mgO2/Kg/minute or something like that.
re: VO2 Maxmorey
Dec 4, 2001 8:27 AM
Some of the readings use pounds instead of KG. If you divide I would have a figure of about 69. However, this figure is deceptive because it has nothing to do with fitness levels.
re: VO2 Maxsurf
Dec 4, 2001 8:49 AM
69 is huge, thats a great score. Why would that have nothing to do with fitness level???
re: VO2 Maxmorey
Dec 4, 2001 9:21 AM
VO2 is primarily genetic. It can be improved about 10% at most. It does not tell you if you are a fat slob or emaciated. I was just born lucky, however because of what I did most of my life, aerobic fitness was not a great concern. It is now!! Try and get a good book on Exercise Physiology. Dr. Lamb has published a few. Gives you a better understanding.
it can be changedsurf
Dec 4, 2001 9:34 AM
I was able to increase from 38 to 54 in about 6 months, so it can be changed. I went from recreational basketball and surfing where i thought i was in shape(38) to doing a sprint triathlon and biking alot (54). Hopefully there is room for more improvement. I guess a change of 10% when your already in good shape would be harder to accomplish.
it can be changedmorey
Dec 4, 2001 9:37 AM
I have always felt that it could be changed greater than 10%. However, you have to realize that 10% is only an averagew figure and maybe just a generalization.
it can be changedJon
Dec 4, 2001 9:48 AM
Some research I've read indicates that in sedentary subjects VO2 max can be changed by as much as 20%.
However, I think in a relatively fit person 10 - 15% is more realistic. BTW, Morey, your aerobic genetics are
world class! You missed your calling. You should've be an elite-level trackie! I'm jealous.
it can be changedmorey
Dec 4, 2001 10:09 AM
Actually, I ran Track 220 and 440 in college. Now 200 meters and 400 meters. Was pretty good. Then I got a wild hair because I was real thin, to be a bodybuilder. I did this until 1992, at which point I had to retire. In retrospect, I wish I had been more serious about cycling/track. Que Sera Sera!
it can be changedpeloton
Dec 4, 2001 10:16 AM
69 is a great score for VO2 max. That sort of range puts one into the same ballpark at NCAA Div 1 runners for reference. Pretty elite, and that shows incredible aerobic potential. I heard the Indurain's VO2 max was around 90. No wonder he was able to push his large frame up hills with his mouth frequently closed even in the TDF. He also was able to make great usage of a large percentage of his VO2 max before having to back off. Having a high VO2 max is great, it shows the potential for being able to transport O2 at a great rate. Thing to consider is that what percentage of your VO2 max that you can get to before OBLA (Onset of blood lactate accumulation) is really key. Someone who can get to a higher percentage of their lower VO2 max before getting bogged down by lactate accululation is doing better than someone who has a high VO2, but low OBLA (called AT, or LT too). There are so many factors in oxygen transport and oxidatative metabolism that I wouldn't worry too much about one number. Just try to make the most of what you have.

How much you can change your VO2 max depends a lot on where you start out. A sedentary individual can make huge gains, while a more fit person might struggle to raise theirs even a little. Case by case basis I guess.
it can be changedmorey
Dec 4, 2001 10:24 AM
One thing that I noticed is that some bodybuilders that have high genetic VO2, but great body mass, tire very readily. They have poor aerobic capacity. Boxers on the other hand sometimes have great VO2 max. Actually, they would have to.
it can be changedJon
Dec 4, 2001 10:54 AM
Interesting point about OBLA. From studies that Tim Noakes has done on the African runners, it
appears that their VO2 max is no greater than other elite runners, however, their LTs are very high
and their ability to run for long periods at very high percentages of their VO2 max is significantly
higher than other elite distance runners. So their economy and endurance at threshold is extraordinary.
The current theorizing is that there is an as yet unmeasured genetic ability here.
it can be changedmorey
Dec 4, 2001 11:46 AM
Alpacas which live in South America have 10 times the # of RBC that humans have. They can squeeze every little bit of
oxygen out of the air. They are aerobic wonders. The indios of Peru that live in high altitude have tremendously high number of RBC. They can go forever (they also chew coca leaves). However, their VO2 is high normal.
Boxing and cyclingguido
Dec 4, 2001 12:14 PM
Both boxing and bike racing are contests of physical endurance: high VO2 max., ability to recover from short-term anaerobic efforts, "wearing out" the opponent(s) until you have "nothing left." Running has the same endurance aspects, but not the rhythm cycling and boxing have in common.
re: VO2 Maxcioccman
Dec 4, 2001 9:16 AM
Good job Morey. Mine is 59. 34 years old here.
re: VO2 Maxmorey
Dec 4, 2001 9:22 AM
That is a very good #, places you at a high level.
re: VO2 MaxDuane Gran
Dec 4, 2001 10:38 AM
Mine is 61 and my age is 28. I would really like to get this higher, but I think I'm close to the genetic cieling. My resting HR is generally around 47 these days, but in the peak of the race season it was typically 43.
re: VO2 Maxmorey
Dec 4, 2001 10:43 AM
One thing(besides cheating), is to increase lung size, therfore lung volume. Go in a pool, practice holding your breath. Time yourself. Try to increase your time. You will be surprised at how your lung volume will increase.
interesting... questionDuane Gran
Dec 5, 2001 5:04 AM
That is an interesting point you bring up and I never thought of it before. Tell me something, is it necessary to use a pool or be submerged in water? Will holding my breath above ground work as well? I don't get around pool's often, but I could take a bath. :)

Seriously, I'm intrigued by this and am willing to give it a try.
interesting... questionmorey
Dec 5, 2001 5:26 AM
You do not need a pool. Holding your breath would work just as well. I actually do not know how effective it is, but I know theoretically it will work. The Indians in Peru, where I spent over 1 year after med school, have tremendous lung volumes developed by high altitudes, they are tireless.
Morey: question regarding the "genetic ceiling"Leisure
Dec 5, 2001 4:18 AM
I like the way Duane puts it, and wonder how much it pertains to the studies Morey's refering to stating that VO2-max couldn't be changed by more than 10%. Were those studies done on athletes that were already in great condition and could already be closer to their theoretical genetic ceilings, or were they done on average couch potatoes? What were these people doing in terms of cardiovascular training during and before the study, and over what period of time?
Morey: question regarding the "genetic ceiling"morey
Dec 5, 2001 4:38 AM
The fallacy with many of these studies, is what you have noticed. These are usually fit college athletes and/or students. Therefore, the 10% figure applies best to fit individuals.
re: VO2 MaxBobo
Dec 4, 2001 1:12 PM
VO2 Max = 62
Watts @ LT = 320
LT 172
Age 34