Dec 3, 2001 6:43 AM
|I am using Conti Supersonics because they came on my bike, however they flat easily. In fact, I have had four in a period of two weeks. My wife has Michelin Axial Pro tires, never a flat, she loves them. Are these a good choice? Are Tufo clincher-tubulars the way to go. I am 5'10" and 200 pounds. What do you recommend?|
Dec 3, 2001 7:01 AM
|Axial Pro's get my vote. I use the "all black" (actually gray tread) 700 X 23's instead of green.
Dec 3, 2001 7:10 AM
|The Axial Pro's get my vote too. I can 3500k's out of my rear tire before I need to replace it. |
|Supers v Axial||McAndrus|
Dec 3, 2001 7:07 AM
|I use Supersonics but only for special occasions. They rate very highly for lightweight racing and climbing tires but, as you've noticed, they wear quickly and flat easily.
I've also used Axial Pros quite often but they're not my favorite tire. My favorite training tire is the Performance Forte. Good weight - lighter than Axial Pros, durable - don't get wall cuts like the Axials, nice ride - a little more supple than Axials, and nice price - about half of Axial list.
The only downside I've noticed is they wear more quickly than Axial Pros. I've used three Performance tires this season where I'd have used two Axials. But I'm still ahead on the money.
By the way, I think the Supersonics are great, just not for every day riding.
|Supers v Axial||morey|
Dec 3, 2001 7:12 AM
|I love the supersonics too! But they look like an old tire already,cuts all over them, and they do flat easily.|
Dec 3, 2001 7:51 AM
|My vote goes to the Axial pro tyres, been using them since mid summer. They seem to roll better than other tyres I have tried, more freewheeling possible.
This should be said in a whisper but no flats yet.
Dec 3, 2001 8:49 AM
|I just purchased a pair of Hutchinson Carbon Comp Air Lights. They ride great but I have flated 4 times in six rides and the rear tire has gashes all over it. I returned the first tire and got a new one which did the same thing. I think these tires may be similar to the SuperSonics in that they are good racing tires but not everyday.
In the past I have had great success with Vittoria Twin Tread, Panaracer Stradius Pro, and Ritchey Tom Slick.
|Conti Gatorskin Ultras (NM)||MrCelloBoy|
Dec 3, 2001 9:39 AM
Dec 3, 2001 9:57 AM
|I have been using older Axial Comps and they are great! The extra few grams of rotating weight isn't worth all of the time changing/fixing flats.|
|re: Tires||Lone Gunman|
Dec 3, 2001 10:50 AM
|Conti GP 3000, get about 2k to 2.5K per pair. I ride mostly rural roads and they are of the tar and chip variety, not the easiest on tread wear. On sale usually @ $29+shipping from Labicicletta or Ital-techno. I really think alot of the wear problems come from riding environment, less road trash out in the country.|
Dec 3, 2001 11:56 AM
|I've tried a lot of tires over the past year or so (APs, Conti GP 3000, Performance Kevlar, Panaracer Stradius), and my vote goes to the Axial Pros. You can buy them for $18.50 (green) or $22.50 (black) at www.chucksbikes.com right now. For that price, it's worth a shot. I've also had good luck with the Michi Hi-Lites, which you can generall buy from Performance for about $22 each (as long as you don't mind the red sidewalls).|
Dec 3, 2001 12:38 PM
|I guess you have ordered from Chuck's before. This is a real deal on Michelin Axial Pro's. I think I will order a pair. Thanks - Stan|
Dec 3, 2001 8:34 PM
|I ordered 3 black AP's from Chucks about two weeks ago, my first order from him. The tires arrived as billed, but without the usual packaging they come in. For $22, I can do without the packaging.
I have not had problems with excessive cuts on my APs, and they seem to wear at least as well as other tires I've tried. I rarely ever get flats, regardless of which tires I run. I like the way the APs handle, though, and they look nice.
Dec 3, 2001 4:38 PM
|I had Axial Pros on two bikes and Panaracer Stradius went on sale for 1/2 price...so I put a set on...the Axial Pros had a cut or gash every 1/2 inch, while the PS looked new, without cuts (ride virtually same routes)and PS have a much better 'grip' on wet roads, even in wet gravel...Now PS is on both bikes and I will ride the PS until I find reason to change, but so far, so gooooood. (They are also rated to 150psi)....if I do change, I'll go back to Conti; I only changed to Axial Pros because they were 'new & improved w/added calcium'. :)|
|re: Tires||Me Dot Org|
Dec 3, 2001 10:51 PM
|I've had good luck with Conti GP 3000s. They handle well and last suprisingly long for a first rank racing tire. I just put an Axial Pro on my rear wheel today (I'm out of the Contis). First impression: Slightly less rolling resistance than the GP3000. Time will tell on the durability.
A slight step down in price is the Panaracer Pasela TG. This is billed as a touring tire, but it is thin (the 23 seems closer to a 20) with very good rolling resistance for a tought tire. It was my choice for the Aids Ride last summer.
If you have a lot of money and your street are vacuumed every day, get the Vittoria Open CX. Beautiful ride, supple, wonderful handling...and flatted seemingly every other ride.