|Wheelset suggestions for large person||insmanblue|
Nov 29, 2001 4:27 PM
|I have a set of Mavic Ksyrium rims on a Trek 5200 that are starting to give me problems. I am 6'1" and 215 lbs. The aluminum nipples are starting to break after 1400 miles making the wheel go out of true. I don't race and just do club rides. I'm looking for a wheelset set that is not only light but offer durability. I can spend up to $800. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks|
|Been there, done that...||bikerduder|
Nov 29, 2001 4:40 PM
|I weigh 225 and am 6'2" and have had the same problem with light wheels. I've see it expressed best as:
Light, strong, cheap -- pick two
I recently gave up on getting a strong light wheel and went back to DA hubs, Mavic Open Pros, 14/15 spokes and brass nipples. I am trying to sell the Vector Pros. I'm sure there are a lot of other hub/rim choices that will work for you.
|Skip the name brand wheel sets. Get a set built for you.||MB1|
Nov 29, 2001 5:08 PM
|DA or Phil Wood hubs, 32 or 36 heavy butted spokes 14/15 or 13/15, brass nipples, non-aero Mavic rim. Don't mess with skinny tires either.|
|Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL||HYPERON X|
Nov 29, 2001 5:36 PM
|Drop the Ksyriums and go for the new 2002 Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL with Zicral Spokes, this wheel has an upper weight limit of around 235 lbs.
Or you can custom built a wheel using the Mavic OpenPro rims
Nov 29, 2001 6:21 PM
|The big wheel companies design their mainline products for the average sized cycleguy, and my friend, you are at the end of the bell curve on this subject.
An exception is Zipp (www.zipp.com), which does offer a Clydesdale version of I think their 404s at a price a little above your budget. You would fall within their weight limit for these. Contact them for more info.
For less money, find a competent builder, and have him build a custom set. This is a good time of year to shop around for a good builder, being off-season and holiday time, & there is hunger out there and sons and daughters who have special dreams that need to be fulfilled.
For a strong wheelset that would match or be lighter than your Ksyriums at a price substantially below your budget limit, here's my suggestions for parts:
HUBS: American Classic.... light, good bang for the buck;
CLINCHER RIMS: Velocity Deep V.... indestructable and aero, go 28F, 32R; Velocity Aerohead.... lighter than Deep V but still sufficiently strong, 28 or 32F, 32R
SPOKES: Sapim X-Ray bladed.... strong & aero; or DT bladed
Nov 30, 2001 5:51 AM
|I agree with Starliner's ideas. I'll toss in the Mavic CXP33 rim - 470 grams, somewhat aero. I run this in 32 spoke front and rear with DT 14/15, brass nipples. I'm 195 and these wheels have been no problem. I built them and I'm not an expert builder. |
Checking out velocityusa.com I came across a new rim - the Fusion. They state it is a combination of the Aerohead and Deep V. No weight given, but it looks interesting.
|TIRE suggestions for large person||Ahimsa|
Nov 29, 2001 7:09 PM
|Tires may solve your problem more effectively than wheels. At your size I'd stay at 28 or larger. Otherwise take the advice of the others and build custom wheels. Touring rims would be a good choice, and go 32 spokes in front 36 rear. 14 gauge straight. Skip the fancy wheelsets, you'll prolly save money on the purchase of customs and spend less time trueing or placing calls to customer service in some other state.
|Don't use straight guage spokes||ohio|
Nov 29, 2001 9:59 PM
|14/15 are actually less likely to break than 14 straight, because the increased strain on the thinner center section will reduce the strain at the bend and head, where most breakages occur. DB builds a stronger wheel, unless it's straight pull.
As for component advice, the other posters know more than me... my advice is find a good wheelbuilder and tell him what you want and your price range. For $800 any wheelbuilder worth his salt will make you very very happy. There's a listing somewhere online of certified builders but I don't know where...
|I'm 255, and||javagenki|
Nov 29, 2001 9:13 PM
|I ride Mavic ceramic rims, Record hubs, and Conti or Mich tires (23). However, I go with 36 spokes on the back and have Crazy Mike the wheel guru at the LBS build my wheels. I don't replace rims any more often than my 175lb buddies.|
|I'm 255, and||flybyvine|
Nov 29, 2001 11:29 PM
|Now you are a guy I need to speak to !! I ride the same setup yet only weigh 180. How come my rims turn to potato chips ?? I know the wheel builder I use here is crap. I am going to start building my own in the NY.|
|Heliums, believe it or not||LI Biker|
Nov 30, 2001 5:34 AM
|I am 6'3" and 205 +or- 5 pounds. Always had rear wheeel problems until I got a pair of Heliums about 4 years and 6,200 miles ago. Even swapped them for the Rolf stock wheels on my then new 2000 Trek 5200. I ride with Conti GP 3000s. The last time I trued them was over 2,500 miles! There still are European sites that advertise them and for great prices.|
|Thanks everyone for your suggestions||insmanblue|
Nov 30, 2001 10:33 AM
|Since winter is here I have some tine to research and buy a set of wheels. Someone at the LBS said they could locktite the nipples and this might solve the problem. Has anyone done this? What do you think?|
|FWIW, I think||garagemen|
Nov 30, 2001 10:46 AM
|That you are the a bit lighter than me, I have a pair of OPs, 36x3 lace, alu nipples, and I have never had to true them, even with trail and CX riding - same with my Cosmos Elites for the road. Just get a decent builder on the job and there is no reason why you should have any problems|
Dec 3, 2001 1:47 PM
|That's a cop-out to compensate for badly tensioned spokes. If all the spokes are evenly tensioned, none of them will loosen. All loctite does is make it a pain in the a$$ when you have to make a trueing adjustment after a crash or pothole or whatever.|| |