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Road Bike or Cyclocross??(12 posts)

Road Bike or Cyclocross??Harmony
Nov 28, 2001 1:50 AM
Right now I ride a mountain bike and I'm looking to get a 2nd bike for road rides (slicks on my MTB just aren't cutting it anymore) -- either a road bike or cyclocross.

I don't plan on riding competitively, mostly recreational (long?) speed rides. I'm 130lbs. Have a decent budget. So what are some of the general things I should know to help me make a decision. Like, will a CX be more limiting than a road bike as my skill gets better? Is a good CX bike as fast as a decent/good road bike (skill as a constant)? Any particular geometry issues I should be aware of, being new to the sport? Other raves and rants appreciated! Thanks in advance!
Get the road bikepmf1
Nov 28, 2001 4:51 AM
I bought a cross bike a few years ago and ended up selling it. At the time, I had four bikes (3 road) and wasn't using the thing for off-road riding. I had road tires on it, which helped. Don't get me wrong, I liked the bike (Fuji Cross), but for road riding, a straight out road bike is nicer. I really did not like the brakes. It came with cantis that I later replaced with v-brakes + travel agents. The v-brakes did work better than the cantis, but never as well as a dual pivot road brake. Perhaps I didn't have then tuned right (lord knows I monkeyed with them), but STI levers just don't seem to have the amount of pull required for v-brakes to work areally well.

If I were you, I'd go for the road bike. You already have a mtn bike for off-road, so why get another bike that is best used off-road when what you really want is something made for on-road?
re: Sport touring gets my votedzrider
Nov 28, 2001 5:34 AM
Long wheel base and low bottom bracket make for comfy, all-day riding. Eyelets for racks let you travel by bike. Wider stays accomodate fenders and heavier tires for commuting. Modern frame materials make it possible mount racing wheels and have a bike light enough to do all but very competitive riding. Bikes offer us many options to enjoy and these sport-touring bikes let us sample most of them.
Whaddyagonnadowithit?Sparcenfast
Nov 28, 2001 5:38 AM
If you's gonna ride on the road, then git yous a road bike, cuz they're good f'that, kinda specially made f'it.

If yous gonna ride on the places that's not the road, git yous a CX bike, cos they're good f'that n'all.

Don't yous worry about the brakes - my Canti brakes make the rims slide round the wheel when I put them on - ain't no way that road bike brakes supposed to be better than them f'stoppin.
How many can you handle ...Humma Hah
Nov 28, 2001 6:50 AM
... most folks here would like about a dozen, if they could. CX, time trial, road race (actually 2, one specialized for climbing), triathalon, a brevet ultra-distance bike, a fixie rigged for track and another for commuting, a touring bike, and a beater for riding where the others won't go, a MTB, a FS downhiller, maybe a trials bike for good measure.

Me, I'd like a rugged but classy old frame that can, with a wheel swap, do CX, or general-purpose road. If I were buying new, price no object, it would likely be a CX frame with two sets of wheels, rigged singlespeed/fixed. My wife wonders why I need two bikes.
Style vs SubstanceRich Clark
Nov 28, 2001 7:37 AM
Racing-style bikes are terribly limited, IMO. If you do a lot of club rides, if you aspire to race, if your solo rides are loops on good roads, if you never need to carry a change of clothes or a bag of groceries, if your bike is a status symbol... a racer might be just what you want.

For a lot of people, a "sport" or sport/touring or light touring bike makes a lot of sense (and some cyclocross bikes are very similar to some sport/touring bikes). These are bikes that can mount wider tires, racks, fenders. They're still road bikes, and if equipped with light wheels and narrow tires they don't necessarily give up much in terms of speed, either, but they're a lot more versatile.

It all depends on how you'll be riding, but IMO it's rarely a mistake to err on the side of versatility unless you have a specific reason to go for a racing design.

RichC
re: Road Bike or Cyclocross??John-d
Nov 28, 2001 7:54 AM
You already have a work horse.

Get a good racer for road riding. Check that you can squeeze on mudguards (fenders).

You will never ride the MTB again other than for shopping trips.
unless you planning to race cyclocrosscyclopathic
Nov 28, 2001 8:36 AM
get steel road steed with triples.
you will appreciate it on long rides
105 level components should do it
IF makes a great one...ohio
Nov 28, 2001 2:30 PM
Called the club racer. Sorta inbetween a racer and a tourer. Uses long reach calipers, so you can fit fenders for commuting/touring, beefier-than-racing tubing so it'll hold up, and it's an IF so superb attention to detail and/or customization is there.

It's not cheap, but I don't know if anyone else makes anything like it. They should. I wish I had one.
So do othersRay Sachs
Nov 29, 2001 10:25 AM
Rivendell's been doing them hi-zoot for a while and are now going to offer a "budget" version called the Rambouillet. Several British makers (Thorn and Mercian come immediately to mind) have them. And more BIG American brands are starting to offer stuff like this. I believe Giant now has an OCR version with longer stays and that uses standard reach brakes and maybe Cannondale. Bianchi (not American, but a big bike company) has at least one model (maybe two) that do. Waterford has one. Shimano just started manufacturing standard reach brakes again (Ultegra and 105 level) after discontinuing the last one (RX-100) a couple of years ago. There isn't a huge market for these, but there's evidently a growing market for 'em.

-Ray
re: Road Bike or Cyclocross??mackgoo
Nov 29, 2001 1:55 PM
I would go with the road bike. Your off road need are filled with the MTB.
Get a 'Crosser with 2 sets of wheels.MB1
Nov 29, 2001 4:09 PM
I've got a Bianchi CromoLite Cyclocross frame built up with Ultegra triple, Paul Neo-Retro cantis and STI, XTR rear derailleur. 2 sets of wheels-a light set for strictly fast riding on good roads and a tough set for general use. Wide gear range on the tough wheels, narrow gear range on the lite wheels.

Since you already ride in the dirt you may appreciate a bike you can ride to, through and home from dirt. I've got a Ti racing bike that rarely gets used anymore. My #1 road bike is the 'Crosser. Note that we do mostly long "Adventure" sort of rides not fast and short group rides.

YMMV