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Ibis/Strong(11 posts)

Nov 27, 2001 6:12 AM
Not long ago, Ibis moved its production facilities from northern CA to a new facility in Bozeman, Montana that was to be shared with Strong Frames. Both Ibis and Strong seemed excited about the venture at the time. However, I just found a "press release" on the Ibis web site stating that Ibis is leaving the facility and will not pursue a formal joint venture with Strong because of concerns about production capacity. Although the release doesn't specifically refer to problems between Ibis and Strong, it doesn't sound like a friendly split. Does anyone have more information? Here's the link:
re: Ibis/StrongNessism
Nov 27, 2001 6:30 AM
The press release was quite clear and admirably frank. Production volume from the new shop could not keep up with demand. Sounds like Ibis needed a new shop where they can have complete control of production. I don't think this necessarly means that Ibis and Strong were at odds but it could be the case.
Regarding Ibis, didn't Scot Nicol receintly sell his stake in the company? Maybe this contributed to the Srong/Ibis split.
re: Ibis/Stronggtx
Nov 27, 2001 10:13 AM
apparently Scot Nicol sold Ibis six months ago but they kept it quiet. They're supposed to have some sort of press release about who the new owners are but so for I've heard nothing.

-Hank (who loves his a Sebastopol-built Mojo)
re: Ibis/StrongTheMaxx
Nov 27, 2001 2:43 PM
What is Ibis without Chuck? Why did Scot sell off?
re: Ibis/Stronggtx
Nov 27, 2001 3:35 PM
Both good questions. I'm curious to find out, too.
Where are Ibis frames constructed NOWMe Dot Org
Nov 27, 2001 9:14 AM
i Ibis has re-structured its frame production operations
i and is currently at full production for steel and
i titanium frames.

...but they don't say where. I'd agree, the tenor of the announcement is more terse than amicable. Perhaps there Ibis thought they could cut production costs in Montana. Perhaps the labor pool wasn't as large as they hoped, who knows?

I hope this doesn't put Carl Strong out of business...
Where are Ibis frames constructed NOWJess
Nov 27, 2001 9:28 AM
I think Taiwan
Where are Ibis frames constructed NOWmickey-mac
Nov 27, 2001 10:00 AM
I don't know where they're building now, but I agree that the tone of the message is terse. I remember reading a message by Scott Nicol months ago talking about drinking beer with Carl Strong and looking forward to their new relationship. In light of Ibis's traditional irreverent attitude toward just about everything, this dryly worded announcement is a bit surprising to me. Strong's site mentions nothing about it. I hope everything works out for the best for Strong and Ibis.
Where are Ibis frames constructed NOWCT1
Nov 27, 2001 8:50 PM

Why don't you post a picture of that super nice looking Strong frame you've got. :-)

It's there somewheremickey-mac
Nov 27, 2001 10:12 PM
I posted a picture in the Gallery back in March or so. Actually the photo was taken at Strong's shop in Bozeman before it was shipped and the picture quality isn't great. Unfortunately, we don't have a digital camera or a scanner, so I can't post a pic right now. However, a new camera may be in the works for Christmas, so I'll post a better pic if we get one. Maybe I'll follow J's lead and post 15 or 20 pics with accompanying movie lines. ;-)
No info, just thoughtsEric
Nov 28, 2001 10:30 AM
I sort of thought the partnership between Ibis and Strong was a strange one, but at the time I did not realize Ibis had been sold. It just seemed odd for Ibis to relocate from Sonoma and then to take a "roommate" in Strong. Actually, I guess Strong took a roommate in Ibis, which is even more strange. My instinct is that Ibis must have been on a little bit of financially shaky ground after its sale and the new ownership must have felt a cost cut in location would help.

As for Strong, well, he was thriving before the merger and I believe the move into the new facility was planned before the Ibis deal, so hopefully this will not cause him financial hardship. I've never owned a Strong, but I have talked to Carl and Tony both when I was considering a new steel frame (went with a stock Ti frame instead) and they are both great guys. If I was buying custom steel again he would be at the TOP of my list.