|bike for racing||km|
Nov 20, 2001 4:30 PM
|hello, i have a 26-pound steel motobecane mirage frame with sora and noname parts. i'm thinking about entering some real races, and as you could imagine, a $300 (new) bicycle won't give you the best performance. the bike is not terrible, but then again i have no basis for comparison. being a student, i am A. not made of money and B. may be growing. should i wait and ride my 26-pounder? try to estimate growth? i would like a pretty nice bicycle if i am going to spend a substantial amount of money on it. have been looking at airborne ti (however, was bashed quite a bit below); aegis carbon; lemond zurich; anything else that would result in me spending about 1500-2000 dollars, maybe with 105 or veloce so that i can upgrade when i get the cash. thank you for any help.
Nov 20, 2001 4:43 PM
|You'll probably want a new bike for racing.
I'd suggest something like the Airborne (they are bashed for politics and marketing more than the bikes themselves), a Bianchi Alloro, or the ones you mention. Anything with decent wheels and good working components would put you in the game and not make you feel disadvantaged. Narrow down your search and then run them by us again, maybe after you've tried them on.
|re: bike for racing||gtx|
Nov 20, 2001 4:48 PM
|Check out the Giant TCRs. I think the TCR2 might be around $1200 and has a frame that was in the Tour de France the last few years. Plus, it has a sloping top tube--might be easier to fit/grow into. Great race bikes for the money.
|Buy used||Kerry Irons|
Nov 20, 2001 4:52 PM
|A used racing bike can be had for $500-750 that will be a huge upgrade from your current machine. You'll be able to learn the ropes of racing and equipment without worrying so much about crashing or growing out of the bike. From this bike, you could then move on to a new bike after you're in a stronger financial situation, know a lot more about bikes, and understand your likes and dislikes in the fit, handling, and comfort departments.|
|re: bike for racing||weiwentg|
Nov 20, 2001 5:50 PM
|DON'T GET ANYTHING LESS THAN 105!!!!!
having said that, there may be a lot of Airborne bashing, but check the reviews ... almost all Airborne owners love their bicycles. my next bike will be an Airborne.
you can, indeed, ride a 26lb bike in a race. but I think even Lance Armstrong on that bike wouldn't do very well. hmm... well, he might.
if you really can spend a grand and a half, though, go for Airborne ... best price/performance I've seen. Had I known that I would be bitten severely by the racing bug I would have spent that much on my bike then, instead of spending a grand on a Specialized Allez with Tiagara parts, and then having to upgrade.
as for the growing bit, can't help you there ... you could, I suppose, get one size bigger. depends on your age.
|re: Look at the Trek 2300||Softrider|
Nov 21, 2001 5:37 AM
|My LBS has been clearing out the 2001 Trek 2300 bikes at less than $1,500.
It has a decent Al frame and comes with Ultegra.
Not a bad deal.
|re: bike for racing||John-d|
Nov 21, 2001 6:36 AM
|A quick look at the Airborne site shows that a 105 equipped Zeppelin would cost $2,061 complete with pedals and bottle cage. The weight is shown as 19.66lbs. Additional to this there is delivery and I believe tax.
A Cannondale R800 - 2001 model cost me just over $1,700 including pedals, tax, fitting for size, 2 free after sale service visits and free delivery right out of the bike shop, ready to ride home. The weight was shown as 18.5lbs
If you have $2,000 this will leave $300 for shoes, clothing and bits of kit.
There are other makes recommended on this posting check them all out and TEST RIDE before buying.
|Ouch, did Airborne has raised their prices or their spec?||js5280|
Nov 21, 2001 1:06 PM
|I think I paid just over $1900 for a 2001 Zep w/ full Ultegra delivered. Guess they decided to pay those Chinese slave welders for a change ;-) Have to admit, there are a lot of great deals on very good Ultegra equipped bikes out that cut several hundred dollars off an Airborne right now. That gap was much smaller at the begining of year when I bought my mine. Got to admit though, I love my Zep :-)
Since you're still growing, take a look at used bikes or at good year end closeouts, Schwinn's are particularly good values now. John-d makes a good point, you're probably going to want to buy some accessories for your new ride.
|re: bike for racing||Mel Erickson|
Nov 21, 2001 7:20 AM
|Upgrades are fun but are also a money pit. For someone on a budget you'll always come out better buying as much as you can afford up front. In other words, if you can afford a bike equipped with Ultegra you're better off buying one with Ultegra rather than buying one with 105 and upgrading later. There certainly are good reasons for upgrading, it satisfys the urge for something new, you learn a new skill, personal satisfaction, something breaks and you replace it with an upgrade, etc. The bottom line is, buy as much bike as you can afford, it's cheaper in the long run. If you can afford $1500-2000 you can certainly buy a new bike with Ultegra or probably a used one with Dura Ace.
How much do you think you'll grow? 1-2 more inches should be able to be accomodated with more seatpost or stem length. More than that may be a problem. A compact frame can fit a wider range of sizes and may be a better choice.
Used or new, hmmm, tough choice. Good reasons to go both ways. If you think you know what you want, and what size will fit, and are comfortable buying sight unseen, perhaps over the internet, used can be a great way to go. If you need help or are uncomfortable with the above, new at a LBS may be better. You can get more bang for your buck buying a good used bike that fits but you have to know what you're looking for. Give us some idea of what you're considering, go out and ride a bunch (now's a great time, shops have more time and are more motivated to sell, plus you can ride and consider last years and the new years models) Just don't get fit at a LBS and then go and buy it over the 'net, that's not cool. If you pay for a fitting, that's a different story. It might be a good idea to pay a good shop to fit you and give you advice on frames that would serve a growing guy.
Nov 21, 2001 7:33 AM
|at Sampsonsport.com A Dura Ace Silverton titanium is $2299 (no pedals). Less expensive component groups are also available. Eric will spend quite a bit of time with you on the phone getting measurements and finding out what kind of rider you are. He is a small, well respected builder out of Denver. Advantage: price! Disadvantage: can't test ride and you have to have a pretty good idea of what you like in frame geometry and ride characteristics.
Nov 21, 2001 8:37 AM
|If you're not nervous about their bancruptcy, you can buy a Schwinn Fastback Comp for $799 at Supergo.com (Ultralight Gold Label Fastback frame, race-ready with Shimano 105 18-spd drivetrain, Reynolds carbon fork, Velomax wheels, TTT Bar & Stem, Michelin tires. MSRP $1400). Or the Fastback Factory for $1199 (Ultralight Fastback frame, race-ready with Ultegra 18-spd drivetrain, Time carbon fork, Velomax wheels, TTT Bar & Stem, Selle Italia Flite saddle. MSRP $2180).
I don't think you'll find a race-ready machine for a better price. Just don't crack the frame.
|re: bike for racing||atomicwedgie|
Nov 21, 2001 8:43 AM
|I have an Airborne Valkyrie and love it, but I paid $2030. for the bike, accessories and shipping. So it may not be what you're looking for. I did notice however, that supergo has a KHS Flite 1000 for $1149. plus shipping. It looks like a nice bike for the money. I don't know how much it weighs but it looks like it has decent componets, and it includes pedals.|| |