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anyone ride in fog?(18 posts)

anyone ride in fog?Dog
Nov 20, 2001 6:52 AM
The classic California Central Valley winter day is fog. It was so foggy this morning that I could barely see the stoplights above the road.

Anyone ride in fog? Seems pretty dangerous.

is this spam for nmdupe
Nov 20, 2001 7:11 AM
re: anyone ride in fog?bikerduder
Nov 20, 2001 7:13 AM
For some reason this year we have had several really foggy days here in Illinois. I have ridden in it and agree it's dangerous (and stupid). I had to take off my glasses until it cleared, and cars can't see you until they are right on you. It also makes it harder to see road obstacles until you get too close to react. If you do it regularly, get some highly reflective clothes and one of those blinking red tail lights.
You gotta know your route and avoid traffic/autos.MB1
Nov 20, 2001 7:15 AM
Lights help you be seen by other cyclists (a big danger around here) and put some kind of "Rain-off" on your glasses.

Like any other iffy weather condition fog ain't that bad if you are careful, slow down a little bit and are prepared.

Gortex helps too. You can get awful wet riding in thick fog.

It can also be wonderfully beautiful. Sunday we were riding along the Potomac watching the fog under the bridges being lit up by the rising sun. You can miss some of the best the outdoors has to offer if you avoid funky weather.
Not on purposemr_spin
Nov 20, 2001 7:16 AM
I did a century last year where a good 20 miles was in fog on mountain roads. Visibility was terrible, but the worst part is that your glasses mist up and you get soaking wet and cold. Add to that a fine layer of mist on top of already wet roads, and you start to question why the hell you are here! Down one twisty, steep, badly rutted descent, I knew I was going to die. I didn't, of course, but I was so happy to hit the flatlands at the bottom.
Same hereCliff Oates
Nov 20, 2001 7:33 AM
I did the Marin Century in 2000 and the trip over the Marshall Wall was in the fog. Cold, wet, visibility was 100 feet or less, my glasses misted up badly enough that I had to take them off, and a very careful descent down the other side. Thankfully there were few cars on the road. I would not ride on a heavily travelled road with visibility restricted by fog -- the risks are too great.
My favorite ride was in the fogSteve Davis
Nov 20, 2001 7:20 AM
Each summer I vacation with the family and several friends in western PA. The guys get up at 5 am to ride 30+ miles before the families wake up. Along the route we take there is a beautiful trout stream that casts a fog over the low parts in the road. What a feeling descending into the cool mist! Can't wait for next summer. Thanks for jogging the memory on this dark, damp day in New England.
re:after 5 hours I get pretty foggydzrider
Nov 20, 2001 7:31 AM
If the fog is in the air, I take off my glasses, hug the curb a little tighter than usual, and hope for it to burn off quickly. If you're inland at least it's never both foggy and windy.
re: anyone ride in fog?Spokeman
Nov 20, 2001 9:04 AM
Hey Doug,

Oh how I don't miss that stuff down there.

We used to train in the fog but we just rode through it to get up in the hills above it.

A few things I learned. Start your rides a bit later and give it time to burn off a bit. You also have to dress for rain since that damn tule fog (did you know there was a song called that?) is very wet and you get soaked after just a few minutes.

One more thing is to stick to roads with a wide shoulder, drivers are pretty much blind out there and you need all the room you can get.

I don't know Doug, I hear you have a little one on the way now. That changes the chances you should take. Riding is one thing, doing rides to increase the chance that your kid grows up without a dad is another. That fog is a killer. It's the thickest fog on the planet. Just some advice from one friend/parent/rider/obsessed cyclist/central valley boy to another.

Tell all the Visalia boys Aaron says hi.

Try it at night on Single Track!grzy
Nov 20, 2001 10:10 AM
Central Valley fog is right up there with Coastal Maine fog - very thick stuff. However, we've been doing night MTB rides in the Santa Cruz Mtns. in the fog. You don't see the deer unitl you practically run into them - better than carz I guess. It's also pretty easy to miss turns on familiar routes and wind up some place unexpected. It's kinda fun. My take is that you have to slow down a bit (no kidding) and be prepared for the unexpected. Not really sure I want to mix it up with the cars - I always lose.
I second that...UncleMoe
Nov 20, 2001 11:02 AM
Out on night time MTB trails, I sometimes get this eary feeling that I'm not quite where I think I am. 5-10 minutes later I realize that I really am off course.

It sort of adds to the fun. At least in Southern Ca the trees aren't too thick and you can usually see a pretty good distance in all directions. I imagine in Santa Cruz and other areas, you are simply surrounded by trees and just have to figure hope you can figure out what direction to go.
Nov 20, 2001 3:33 PM
Even have a hush-hush trail called "Blair Witch" out in the woods....

Often thought it would be really cool to do a ride using night vision googles. Wouldn't that be a cool additon to the trail poacher's arsenal.....
that would be crazyDog
Nov 20, 2001 4:28 PM
The single track I've been on around here often has several hundred foot drop off's to one side. They can be pretty darn scary to ride in clear daylight. In the fog, it would be suicide, especially coming down. Just imagine descending, not being able to see where you are, and -- oops, wet rims, and I don't know which way to turn!

The fog can be so bad on the streets here that you can see the signs nor any landmarks. You have to count intersections and try to remember where you probably are. Sometimes you can't see traffic lights until you are right under them. Any bike light, even the brightest flashers, would be lost in the fog. Sometimes it's even worse after daybreak, as you get pure glare, instead of being able to pick out lights in the dark.

Riding trails in the fog sounds like a sure recipe for doing a Sonny Bono.

Everythings relativeUncleMoe
Nov 20, 2001 4:50 PM
Well sure, I certainly wouldn't ride a trail that had 100 foot drops. I'm not sure I'd do it on a night ride on a clear night, nevermind fog. With nightlights on the trail, I sometimes loose a little bit of depth perception. Just enough to throw me off line.

At night, I tend to ride a tad more mellow. Its not about the speed or the technicality of the ride as much as it is the vibe of being out on the trail alone in the dark.

In general terms, riding on a trail you know fairly well at night in the fog is 10 times safer than riding on the road in the fog.
Could be fun. Single track is fun anyway whats a little fog. nmMB1
Nov 20, 2001 11:05 AM
No road trainingMikeC
Nov 20, 2001 12:38 PM
Finding yourself miles away from home in fog is one thing. Going out to train (on the road) in fog is just not smart. My wife is a former chief flight nurse on a helicopter MedEvac program, and was often frustrated when they couldn't go out to the dozens of accident calls they'd get on foggy days. There are certainly more accidents in fog, but they tend to be lower speed, and therefore less messy. That goes for cars, but even a low-speed impact with a bike can be terminal.
The problem isn't you, it's the other idiot. Wear a seatbelt in your car, and don't ride on the road in the fog!
I love mountainbiking with fog.Leisure
Nov 21, 2001 12:52 AM
I feel safer on a trail than I do on the road specifically because of cars. But there's something about cool, crisp fog on a damp trail that just renews some sort of visceral lust for life for me. I start thinking about Gamelan music and Tao Te Ching, and come away from the trail feeling surrealistically centered. Sure, you have to slow down depending on conditions, but it is so worth it.
But I should mention...Leisure
Nov 21, 2001 12:57 AM
The fog here in Utah is not going to be anywhere near the fog you'll get in more humid climates. I don't want to encourage anyone doing the "Sonny Bono" thing.