|M y Brooks saddle came on Friday||Djudd|
Nov 19, 2001 4:56 PM
|I put it on the RB-1 and after a few adjustments I went on my favorite 30 mile loop Saturday morning. I understand it takes awhile to break-in but I was very comfortable from the first. An added benefit is the retro/functional look it gives the machine. Though i like the feel and look of the thing I think I will leave the saddle-that-is on the commuter. There is a certain refreshing dynamism to the difference in feel from one saddle to the other. BTW I got the saddle from Bicycle Classics for $46 via the internet. At that price even a confirmed cheapskate like me could not resist.
|re: M y Brooks saddle came on Friday||UncleMoe|
Nov 19, 2001 6:50 PM
|What model did you get?
I have a B17 on my road bike. I liked it so much, I got a Conquest (sprung saddle) for my MTB. The Conquest is a little more narrow than the B17, but I wanted a little more narrow for dropping off the back of the saddle on descents. Turns out getting the right size makes a difference because it was not comfy at all. Not all Brooks are built equally!
I returned it and got the Champion Flyer. It is really just a B17 leather and frame, with springs added on. It feels great. The springs are very sturdy and adds just enough bounce to take out the rough edges of riding a hardtail.
I was glad I used wallbike.com to get the saddle because they offer a 6 month return gaurantee, otherwise I'd be stuck with the narrow saddle.
|re: M y Brooks saddle came on Friday||Djudd|
Nov 19, 2001 7:39 PM
|I got a black B.17 I saw on the website Wallbike has a maroon B.17 ... very unique looking|
|We are thinking the color/finish of a Brooks does affect comfort||MB1|
Nov 20, 2001 4:56 AM
|We have honey, black and maroon Brooks saddles. The Black was the softest initially and broke in quickest. The honey colored one was a little harder and the maroon the hardest.
This may be due natural variations in leather or may have something to do with the finish process or perhaps the maroon saddles don't move as quickly off the shelves and dried out more than the others...
After a great deal of use they all seem to feel about the same but we thought it took a really long time to break in the maroon saddles. Anyone have one of the grey saddles Rivendell sells?
|We are thinking the color/finish of a Brooks does affect comfort||LLSmith|
Nov 20, 2001 6:40 AM
|I have the grey one with the titanium rails. It came in September, but my recent problems keeping my bike upright have not allowed me to put many miles on it. I took it for a couple 38 mile rides and it felt pretty good.It was darn near hard as a rock when it got here, but seems to have softened up a little with each ride.|
|I was thinking the same thing!||UncleMoe|
Nov 20, 2001 8:58 AM
|The B17 on my road bike was rock solid, yet still comfortable right away. It is the Honey-Brown color. After 2000 I have only had to tighten the tensioning bolt just a 1/4 turn.
The Champion Flyer for the MTB is just the stock black leather. It was considerably softer immediatley compared to the Honey Brown B17, plus after three rides it is already sagging a bit and I'll need to tighten the tension bolt prior to the next ride.
Weird, very weird. But I guess it makes sense too considering the dying methods, etc.
|me, too--but I was embarrassed to admit it||cory|
Nov 20, 2001 9:12 AM
|The honey-brown B-17 from Rivendell and the black one I got from my LBS have very different feels, even after a couple of years' use. I like the looks of the brown one, but my butt seems to prefer the black.
46 bucks is a great price--I think Riv is selling them for $90 now. And speaking of THAT, has anybody else noticed that Riv's service seems to be going to hell? They were great when I bought my frame, but now I can't even get questions answered. Maybe 'cause Joe left...?
|me, too--but I was embarrassed to admit it||UncleMoe|
Nov 20, 2001 10:01 AM
|$46 is an awesome price, I agree.
When I was buying mine I narrowed it down to three places, Rivendell (sp), wallbike.com and harriscyclery.com.
I ended up going with wallbike.com due to the 6 month return offer from the owner Bill. It is certainly a risky buy considering I'd never seen one, never mind ride a Brooks.
I've been happy with wallbike. When I returned the Conquest I expected a small hassle, but they were way cool about it. Didn't even ask what the problem was, just said send it back and when I get it, I'll send you a Champion Flyer. Even credited back the $6 differnce in the price.
Nov 20, 2001 5:47 AM
|Brooks advocates (I'm one) tend to be very vocal. But I'm wondering: Have any of you tried a Brooks and simply found it unrideable?|
Nov 20, 2001 7:07 AM
|I have about 400 miles on the Brooks Swift Titanium (black) I bought a few months ago, and the darn thing is still hard as a rock. I've gooped it up with the Proofhide pretty thick, top and bottom. I can't get comfortable on it. However, it does look great on my old Bianchi.
I'll give it a 1000 miles and see what happens.
|I disliked one, but hate is a strong word (more)...||UncleMoe|
Nov 20, 2001 9:04 AM
|I think I've determined that the comfort in Brooks isn;t so much in the leather, but in the width. Like I said b4, the Conquest is narrower than the B17. The Conquest never quite felt right and I still had numbing rather quickly. My B17 on the other hand is great.
After switching to the Champion Flyer, same width as B17, the saddle feels great. I don't have a big ass, but I guess my sit bones are wider than most others.
The leather plays a part in comfort too. Bike shorts slide over them nicely, your butt slides just a tiny bit on rides which makes you comfortable longer, and you get no chaffing like you "might" with plastic saddles.
But, overall I think it is the width that has helped me, followed 2nd by the shape and material used (leather). I'm not going to ever replace my Brooks with a wider big butt gel saddle that you might see at Sports Authority or Target! Thats just wrong.
Nov 20, 2001 2:55 PM
|I bought a Swift Ti. It seemed fairly comfortable right out of the box, but I could not get it back far enough. Ran out of rails too soon. No problems with a Flite on the same bike. Has anyone else had this experience?
Also it was slippery, but I assumed if it had worked out from a positioning standpoint that this problem would work itself out.
|I didn't know it was even breathing hard. (nm)||grzy|
Nov 20, 2001 3:43 PM
|This took me a minute...||UncleMoe|
Nov 20, 2001 4:52 PM
|but I finally got it. Not bad, not bad at all.|
|I didn't know it was even breathing hard. (nm)||LLSmith|
Nov 20, 2001 5:41 PM
|I guess im a little slow too. I had to read it a few times, but hahaha kind of funny. When you read all these post without knowing the topic you really wouldnt know saddles were the subject.|| |