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Gary Klein rideTig
Nov 17, 2001 11:44 AM
For those who don't know, Gary Klein is the builder who put competitive aluminum frames on the map back before Cannondale got rolling with their similar designs. Klein showed up at our club ride while visiting the LBS (they have 4 stores) today. He had a new Q-Pro Carbon with Record 10 of course. The bike was the standard gray/white color. It had the CF seat stay and the tubes were the new ZR-9000 alloy AL in some new multi shapes. CF seat stays may be a marketing gimmick, but it makes good sense to use them on aluminum frames IMHO. He rides about a 57, which is supposed to weigh 16.5 lbs. I picked it up and it was indeed that light with a frame pump (my arms are calibrated!). I'll develop the few photos I took and scan them Monday for posting. The quality of the bike was nice. He said he likes brighter colored bikes, but "just picked this one off the rack" to take here. Must be nice! As you'll see in the upcoming photos, he rides with the saddle nose pointed way down. He seemed really comfy with it, so I didn't bother asking a rude question. Don't ask, don't tell!

I didn't know what to expect of him, but he turned out to be a nice guy. Not shy, but not one to start a conversation. I spoke with him several times during the ride about the new bike and cycling in general. I asked him if the CF stays were to add rigidity or comfort. He said the old AL stays were lighter and stiffer, and the CF was for increases comfort. The group slit as the testosterone poisoned guys attacked and left. We stopped at the Kemah Boardwalk late in the ride for coffee and social BS'ing. The LBS employees brown-nosed him a little, but the guy was pretty humorous.

Later, one of the LBS managers started to drop, but he stayed back and pulled her back up. He spoke more on the 2002 bikes, but didn't try to dazzle us with sales talk or baffle with metallurgy. I'm not sure if I'll consider the new Q-Pro for my next frame or not. I'll have to test ride the LBS owner's that will arrive next month first. I know Klein builds light, quick bikes that have very BB flex. The real test will be the comfort factor that I would like to have.
did he mention anything about this?gtx
Nov 17, 2001 11:55 AM
indirectly, yesTig
Nov 18, 2001 5:13 PM
All he mentioned was that he stopped by here on his way back home from a meeting in Wisconsin. Texas is a long way off the path from Wisconsin to Washington!
Did he say how much $ for a 2002 QP ? NMDINOSAUR
Nov 17, 2001 6:10 PM
Nope, but I'll ask the LBS this week. -NMTig
Nov 18, 2001 5:16 PM
re: Gary Klein ridesprockets2
Nov 18, 2001 1:41 PM
Very interesting development (CF stays) from Klein, as Litespeed has just introduced a line of aluminum bikes with CF stays as well. Are there any high performance aluminum bikes out there that do have a decent ride? I have only ridden a few, and they tend to be like riding a steel Olmo-which is to say just this side of punishing.

I wonder if it is difficult to build decent ride into an aluminum rear triangle because one would approach the limit to how much flex you can engineer into part of an aluminum bike without compromising the durability of the tube and its junctions with the rest of the frame.

Ride comfort, at the level that I would like to have it as a non-racer, has been an issue for me with the all-aluminum Kleins for years. Not that they have been mercilessly brutal, but the balance of ride comfort vs. frame stiffness/performance has clearly NOT been in favor of comfort. With the premium prices Klein asks, I would have thought that the overall frame package should have been more refined. Maybe this CF will do the trick.