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Sticky New Shimano Chain(18 posts)

Sticky New Shimano ChainNickthedart
Nov 14, 2001 1:47 PM
Do I degrease it, or is it ok in its sticky state?
re: Sticky New Shimano ChainTheMaxx
Nov 14, 2001 1:58 PM
What do you mean 'sticky'? Did it just come out of the box? That is just from the grease they put on in the factory. You don't need to degrease it, just put plenty of lube on it when you first ride it.
Actuallygrzy
Nov 14, 2001 2:42 PM
The Shimano factory reps state you can just run the chain - the lubrication it comes with is pretty good. What's the point of lubing your lube, unless you're trying to attract grime?
re: Sticky New Shimano Chaintcr01
Nov 14, 2001 3:24 PM
Personally, I degrease it b/c the chain will end up pretty gummy and dirty after some miles on it. I think the sticky wax Shimano uses is primarily to prevent any rust while packaged rather than for lubrication purposes. I clean the chain with solvent first then apply my favorite lube.
re: Sticky New Shimano ChainKEN2
Nov 14, 2001 3:55 PM
It's just to prevent rust in storage and shipping--but it's stickier than any lube, it attracts a hell of a mess if you leave it on there (especially if you run a "clean" drivetrain with wax-based lube like I do). The solution? Just soak in mineral spirits or other solvent for an hour, then simply wipe and allow to dry overnight.
I've tried...MrCelloBoy
Nov 14, 2001 4:03 PM
unsuccessfully I might add, to get that factory honey off. It's the most tenacious spew I've ever run into. I just douse it with White Lightening every ride until I've shed it. It takes quite a while!
I've tried...PeugeotSuccess
Nov 14, 2001 4:46 PM
Now that's funny. I've tried two new chains now and left that stuff on there for at least a month. It did not attract much dirt, maybe because I don't ride in the rain or muddy conditions. But I will tell you something, nothing makes my drive train quieter! I'd love to buy this stuff from Shimano. As soon as I clean their wax off my chain and relube with Prolink, my drive train became much noisier.
Chain LubeChen2
Nov 14, 2001 8:23 PM
If you are using ProLink that could explain your chain noise. I had to quit using Prolink because I could hear my chains on three different bikes. Not a loid noise, just a constant clickity click. Switched to Boeshild T-9 and the noise went away. I think it's because ProLink is a little too thin and doesn't cushion links. Maybe that's ok, but I like a quieter chain. I think ProLink may be a better cleaner than a lube. It seems to clean the gunk out.
-Al
Don't touch it!!cyclequip
Nov 15, 2001 4:47 AM
It's the best lube you can get. Never mind the posts who say it's sticky etc. You simply will never have a better lube on the chain till you boil the chain in the same lube again.
whatever!!!tcr01
Nov 15, 2001 5:16 AM
best lube ever...give me a break.
Soak in mineral spiritspmf1
Nov 15, 2001 6:06 AM
That takes the grease off the chain. You can leave it on, but it just gets gunky and harder to get off later. Leaving the grease on and adding more lube will just make it worse by attracting more dirt. Would you lube your chain with grease? If not, then why leave that stuff on there.
brilliant!Ed
Nov 15, 2001 8:51 AM
Remove the lube from between the plates and rollers, and add your choice of lube- that you will never adequately get between the plates and rollers. Good way reduce chain life. Do you work for a chain maanfacturer?
brilliant!pmf1
Nov 15, 2001 10:47 AM
Thanks Ed. I don't know what lube you're using, but most I've used will get between the plates and rollers just fine. this is a bicycle chain here --- pretty simple device, not real high tolerances. Why you think oil will not penetrate it is beyond me.

So, do you rely on the grease to lube your chain forever? It never wears out? It doesn't matter if you leave it there or not. I like a clean chain, so I clean it off.

I think an adage applies ... "its better to keep your mouth closed and be assumed an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt".
Are you sure? ;-)grzy
Nov 15, 2001 2:41 PM
> I think an adage applies ... "its better to keep your mouth closed and be assumed an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt".

....so which are you?
Sticky GunkRusty McNasty
Nov 15, 2001 7:34 AM
That sticky stuff on the chain is called 'cosmolene'. It is a metal protectant often used on unpainted pieces of machinery, but also used on automobiles when they are being shipped long distances. It's primary function is to prevent oxidation of the metal while the part sits in storage. It is intended to be, nor should it be used as a lubricant.
Straight from the horses mouth...TJeanloz
Nov 15, 2001 8:04 AM
Early this spring, we had a group of Shimano engineers come from Japan to visit the shop, ask our mechanics questions, and generally get feedback on their products, and their new products. We also had the opportunity to ask them questions, and this was one that we asked- the official Shimano line is that the lubricant on the chain from the factory is not the standard anti-corrossive you find often on metal parts. It is designed to lubricate the chain for many miles, and the Shimano engineers rolled their eyes at the American and European mechanics who wanted to strip off the lube to put 'real' lube on...The engineers claimed that the greasy crap is a better lube than Pedros, Finish Line et. al.
so, where can we buy it? nmDog
Nov 15, 2001 4:40 PM
Shimano sells itTJeanloz
Nov 16, 2001 9:27 AM
I think this is the stuff:

http://www.shimanocycling.com/Shimano_house/shimanoworkshop/slippery_spitt.asp