|Wonder what I ate there? Note from my club newsletter...||MB1|
Nov 14, 2001 12:44 PM
|**The country store in Flint Hill (Virginia not Maryland) is gone. The elderly couple that ran the store are serving 25 years to life for bear poaching, in cahoots with the game warden (who is serving 95 years). The game warden was killing the bears, then taking them to the Flint Hill store, where the owners (having all the butchering equipment they needed in the store) cut their paws off, removed their livers (and who knows what else) and sent the parts overseas. And, on top of all that, the NEW game warden was recently arrested for killing two bear cubs. Their mother had been hit by a car and that was his way of dealing with the situation. The Chevron station which most rides have favored (potty use, better stock, friendly folks inside) remains in service at Flint Hill.|
|re: yet another reason to avoid "Bearclaws" for...||Akirasho|
Nov 14, 2001 12:54 PM
|on the bike carb loading... too much protein in the mix.
Remain In Light.
P.S. Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!!
|Probably their gall bladders||pmf1|
Nov 14, 2001 1:01 PM
|Wild bear gall bladder commands an incredible price in Asia. Most of the bears poached in the U.S. are killed for their gall bladders.|
Nov 14, 2001 1:06 PM
|Couldn't they do the surgery and get them on their way again? Do they really NEED those gall bladders?
I'm against the death penalty, but sometimes it's really hard to maintain that position.
Nov 14, 2001 1:15 PM
|I think its a vital internal organ. Not like an kidney that you can spare one of. Even worse, I've seen footage where bears are kept in pens with implanted tubes in their gall bladders. This is in China, of course. The bile (or whatever a gall bladder produces) oozes out over time and is collected. the bear lives a miserable life. Really sad. |
I have heard that several state have programs where bears that are legally hunted/killed must be immediately brought to a location where their gall bladders are removed. The resulting revenue is used by the States' DNR. Sometimes for bear research.
Strange as it sounds, I bet that park ranger was making tens of thousands of dollars off that.
Wild ginseng is another commodity that is worth thousands. I've heard stories of people shooting one another over it.
|I hope it's not vital||bikedodger|
Nov 14, 2001 2:29 PM
|I had my gall bladder removed last October and am doing fine without it.
|Like the guy that went to a beautiful woman's room......||STEELYeyed|
Nov 14, 2001 5:56 PM
|and woke up in a tub of ice with a note that read "Your kidney has been removed,call 911". Unfortunatly the animal parts underground trade is not an urban legend.|
Nov 14, 2001 1:01 PM
|What else is there to say about that?
Last November I was on a group ride that took us over Mt. Weather. After decending, we stopped at a little convenience store/taxidermy shop on Route 7 in Loudoun County VA. My first time in such a place. I didn't even know they existed!
The guy working there was in the back portion of the shop, severing, stuffing, and mounting a deer head on a wooden plaque. The lovely couple who brought the deer in for servicing had to interrupt him so that he could sell us some gatorade and powerbars. It was nice to see him wipe most of the deer goo and embalming fluid off his hands before he handled my purchases and my change.
|Snickers Gap-a great climb. Love the name too.||MB1|
Nov 14, 2001 4:52 PM
|Yup, it's pretty wild there along the Blue Ridge.|
|fox guarding the hen house?||Dog|
Nov 14, 2001 1:04 PM
|Sometimes people suck. Holy crap. The guy in charge of saving the bears is the one killing them. People are nuts.
They have bears in Virginia? Actually, that's the most surprising part of the story.
Maybe it should be open season on rangers.
|In the Summer of 2000||nova|
Nov 14, 2001 1:42 PM
|A black bear wandered into a large town in VA named Herndon, no more than 20 miles from DC. He became partial to a drainage tunnel under the road which leads to Dulles airport.
He was shot with a tranquilizer gun and taken away. Now I'm left wondering if the animal control officer had dollar signs in his eyes as he was loading the unconcious bear into the van...
|Lots of wild land in Virginia. Got the Blue Ridge & Shenandoah||MB1|
Nov 14, 2001 5:07 PM
|National Park. SW Virginia is Appalachia for sure, it butts up against Kentucky and Tennessee. Not a pretty place for urban and/or western cyclists-lots o wild ugly dogs and people.|
|Have you been to SW Virginia?||tarwheel|
Nov 15, 2001 5:40 AM
|It's one of the most beautiful places I know, and one of the few undiscovered parts of the Appalachians with very little development. Grayson Highlands is the nicest state park I've ever been to, with great camp sites and lots of trails. There is also some great biking in that area -- primarily mountain bikes. The New River trail follows the river using an old railroad bed for about 60 miles, very scenic with places to camp along the way. the Virginia Creeper Trail starts near Mt Rogers and goes west, another great ride, particularly if you're heading downhill. Blue Ridge and Shenandoah Parkways are .... Oh, I get it, you are trying to discourage people from going there and discovering it ... Never mind. Forget everything I said.|
|Oh great, now everyone knows! ;-) nm||MB1|
Nov 15, 2001 6:34 AM
Nov 14, 2001 1:11 PM
|Any missing cyclists reported out that way? Seems to me I was getting a really good deal on used bike parts from this area via the net..... ;-) |
Sure it wasn't in WEST Virginia? ;-)
|Hotel Hell ?||Dog|
Nov 14, 2001 1:11 PM
|Ever see that movie?|
|Hotel Hell ?||pmf1|
Nov 14, 2001 1:16 PM
|Is that the one where the guy was sewing people's mouths shut and burying them up to their necks in a garden? |
God, am I bored or what?
Nov 14, 2001 1:35 PM
|"planted" them, then made sausage out of them|
|I loved that movie||Spokeman|
Nov 14, 2001 2:59 PM
|"It takes all kinds of critters to make Farmer Vincent fritters."|
|Blasting cap in WVA||nova|
Nov 14, 2001 1:37 PM
|I heard on the local (Washington DC) news recently that a man at a party in West Virginia was trying to set off a blasting cap with electrical impulses from a battery. It wasn't working, so one of the other party attendees became frustrated and said something like "I'll show you how to set it off!"
He picked it up and bit into it with his front teeth. He lost his lips, teeth and tounge.
|Mystery question of like in WVA.........||Len J|
Nov 14, 2001 1:40 PM
|If you divorce your wife is she still your sister?
|Avoid the pineal gland at all costs. (nm)||RhodyRider|
Nov 14, 2001 1:38 PM
|Flint Hill is a neat place, actually...||Greg Taylor|
Nov 14, 2001 2:05 PM
|There is an EXCELLENT restaurant (Four and Twenty Blackbirds) in town.
There is also an interesting cemetery (I know, it's odd...) containing the final resting place of one of Mosby's Rangers -- the guy was captured by a Union cavalry patrol and, as Mosby's men were considered spies and bushwackers, he was summarily strung up in a tree by the side of the road going over the gap. There is now a roadside marker on Rt. 522 commemorating the event. Anyway, the townspeople cut him down and gave him a decent burial, a decidedly risky thing to do. He still lies in a churchyard in town. The church is closed, but the grave and small headstone are neatly tended to, surrounded by a white picket fence.
Finally, I'm not surprised at all that there are bears in the area. My sister lives in Luray, just over the mountain from Flint Hill, and occasionally works with the Rangers in the Shennendoah National Park. There are PLENTY of bears up there...
|Most excellent. Miss M is always looking for a reason to eat||MB1|
Nov 14, 2001 4:54 PM
|at Four and Twenty Blackbirds. Isn't there a B&B there too?|
|There is a B&B in town...||Greg Taylor|
Nov 15, 2001 5:59 AM
|...but not at Four & Twenty Blackbirds. There are lodgings at an old schoolhouse/acadamy about a block away on Rt. 522. It is more of an "inn", with a restaurant attached (food is ok, but nothing special).
The food at Four & Twenty Blackbirds is superb. Local produce/meats, interesting menus, reasonable prices, and a funky building. The best time to go is for Sunday brunch. It can get crowded...if you have a party of five, you can avert this and get a reservation. It is casual enough that I would not feel weird eating there in bike clothes.
|it's the Flint Hill Publick House . . .||jacques|
Nov 16, 2001 6:24 AM
|. . . and I ate there recently on the way to Front Royal. I asked about bed and breakfast and they said they no longer do b and b.|
Nov 15, 2001 12:21 AM
|I'm against poaching, but can't help but wonder... anyone know what the average sentence for murder is?|| |