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habenero titanium road frames(5 posts)

habenero titanium road framesslow-ron
Nov 13, 2001 1:48 PM
anybody every ridden a Habenero titanium road bike? if so what's the ride quality & frame quality like? i can't afford Litespeed and the other low budget ti makers don't thrill me.


re: habenero titanium road framespmf1
Nov 13, 2001 2:30 PM
Check out the Douglas frame sold by Colorado Cyclist and manufactured by TST. They have 2001 close-outs. These are good frames made in the U.S. by a manufacturer who has lots of ti bike experience. I consider them to be a good deal, for whatever that's worth.

A year ago I did some research on budget ti bikes. The TST was the best of the bunch that included Habenero and Airborne among others. All of them had some problems like being made in China (no thanks) or having some CP ti tubes. TST is made of U.S. Sandvik to tubes.

For a budget ti bike, they seem like a good deal to me. Shop around. If you really want a Litespeed, you can find them on close-outs, especially this time of the year, Their Tuscany model is a good buy if you can find it on sale.
re: habenero titanium road framesLone Gunman
Nov 13, 2001 3:55 PM
Did you look at Sampson?
Good bikes designed by Mark Hickey and . . .DCW
Nov 14, 2001 3:49 AM
made state-of-art facility in China. I bought one in 1996 and had it built up with Campy Athena. The welds were beautiful and the general appearance of the bike was better than the Litespeeds I looked at, for 1/3 the price. Habaneros are made of straight gauge 3/2.5, not CP. Mark said double-butting would have saved 2 or 3 ounces on an average frame but that would not have been worth the extra cost. As it was, my frame weighed 3.1 pounds. The ride quality is excellent. I went back to lugged steel last year (partly just for a change and partly to return to a painted, Italian frame instead of the post-modern ti look) and sold my Habby to one of my riding buddies. I see it every week and my buddy thinks it's heaven sent.
I don't know if Mark Hickey is still involved in the business (he has another career as an internationally well-traveled engineer, which is how is discovered the under-utilized Chinese facility), but he is one of the most knowledgable, straightforward and helpful people I have ever met in cycling. I actually drove down to south Florida to meet him, test the bike and see how they were built up. At the time, another engineer friend worked with him to build up the bikes. That fellow, Tim Laflin, is the Campy Only technical writer.
I had only one problem with the bike. The rear derailleur cracked. It was beyond the warranty period, but when I called Mark, he sent up a new one, and I returned the broken one in the box he used. No questions asked. He said he would make sure Campy made him whole.
I'd recommend talking to the Habanero folks and seeing what they have to say about today's products. My info is several years old.
Good bikes designed by Mark Hickey and . . .roy Zipris
Nov 14, 2001 4:38 AM
He posts frequently in another bike newsgroup (if that's the correct term) and his sig line includes a link to the Habanero web site (, if I remember right), so he's apparently still in business, and still enjoying a good reputation among the participants there.