|American Flag Jersey||gzig|
Nov 10, 2001 3:05 PM
|Could you give me some web sites that sell American Flag Jerseys. Thanks|
|re: American Flag Jersey||dsc|
Nov 10, 2001 4:55 PM
|four different jerseys that I know of...
|re: American Flag Jersey||Akirasho|
Nov 10, 2001 5:05 PM
|... depends on exactly what you want...
http://www.excelsports.com/item.asp?major=4&minor=6&description=USA+Cycling+Developement+Jersey&vendorCode=MISC (no pic, but it's in their latest catalog)
There are probably others...
Remain In Light.
|BTW, . . .||LAIrish|
Nov 10, 2001 8:02 PM
|The profit from the aussieapparel jersey (shown in Akirasho's post) goes to the Red Cross. So, you get a cool jersey and do a good deed.|
|Not exactly against the law, but contrary to custom||cory|
Nov 11, 2001 10:24 AM
|You see flag crap all over these days, but much of it is contrary to the customs of flag display...I did a newspaper story on it in early September and learned a lot of stuff. The National Flag Code (or something like that) says "the flag or any portion of it" should not be used as clothing. It's considered disrespectful. Only exception is a flag patch on uniforms.
Think that battle's lost? You also aren't supposed to applaud The Star-Spangled Banner...
|Most interesting. Learn something new every day. (nm)||Jon|
Nov 11, 2001 10:45 AM
|Not exactly against the law, but contrary to custom||dsc|
Nov 11, 2001 7:51 PM
|I may be wrong, but I believe that it means you're not supposed to make clothing, etc. out of an actual flag, not that you shouldn't screen the flag's design onto material, and then make an article of clothing from the material.
I do agree with the part about not applauding after the national anthem. Makes me grit my teeth everytime at ballgames...
|What's wrong with applauding?||eoind|
Nov 12, 2001 2:51 PM
|What is it that is considered "wrong" with applauding after the US National Anthem? Is it seen as somehow disrespectful? |
From a non-American.
|What's wrong with applauding?||dsc|
Nov 13, 2001 12:55 AM
|Oh, nothing, I guess. I suppose I'm just showing my age...
When (and where) I was growing up, the playing of the national anthem was treated with reverence, and you reacted to it with quiet pride (sort of the way you act in church), but you didn't applaud. Just a custom, gone now, apparently.
Also, I spent four years on active duty with the US Marines, and of course when the national anthem was played, we stood at silent attention throughout it's playing, and certainly didn't applaud afterwards :)
But to answer your question, no, I don't think that most people would consider it disrespectful if you were to applaud at a ballgame, or other event. Thank you for asking, though.
|UK radio article yesterday||muncher|
Nov 12, 2001 3:46 AM
|(Alistair Cooke's "Letter from America") said that code had been withdrawn. Has it not? It's always good to catch the BBC out on their facts..|
|Stupid Code Often Misinturpreted.||Chris Zeller|
Nov 12, 2001 10:32 AM
|I've heard things like this before--this is a stupid idea that just adds confusion to people's display of patriotism. I think that it is important to apply the spirit of the code rather than the letter. I think this was maily meant to apply to pieces of "actual" flags not flag designs on clothing--if for example you would cut pieces of a flag to stich them together as clothing.
Let's not discourage people from showing their respect for our country ove some stupid details. There is no good reason for not applauding the national anthem either. If this were true then one of our national symbols, Uncle Sam's outfit too would be disrespectful. That's just stupid.
|IT'S A NO NO||Debbie|
Nov 11, 2001 10:10 PM
|The Flag Code..Title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1 |
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any
manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles
as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like.
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic
uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of
military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic
organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself
considered a living thing.
|... and yet, and still...||Akirasho|
Nov 12, 2001 5:55 AM
|I understand the reasons for the code, and yet, and still, it's implimentation is well, unAmerican... that is, an infringment on personal expression.
While I agree that the flag is a symbol of the aspirations of our nation... and I'm not advocating defacing said... each individual must have the personal resolve and strength to embody said aspirations regardless of the symbol itself. We, the people, are the greatest symbol of this country.
The sentiment with the vast majority of Americans (and in particular cyclists interested with these jerseys) is an expression of patriotism not seen in decades... I kinda like it... and think it's worth bending the code a bit. It's a beautiful symbol in all of these renditions...
I am an American... and lucky to be one.
Remain In Light.
|Wrong. That code is for ACTUAL flags, not a semblance -NM||Tig|
Nov 12, 2001 8:23 AM
Nov 12, 2001 7:32 AM
|USA Cycling Development Foundation||uhlie|
Nov 12, 2001 10:40 AM
|Check out www.usacdf.org for a "patriotic" jersey that also contributes to cycling development programs. It's a bit more toned down than the Aussie flag jersey.
Note: for some reason the usacdf website pretty cuased my computer to come to a standstill, but my computer is pretty much on the edge of puking anyway...