|RICE Tip: Ice Massage||Kristin|
Nov 9, 2001 8:13 AM
|For those who do not had the benefit of a Physical Therapist. For a quick fix when you need to ice an injury, try an ICE CUP:
Fill a regular sized paper cup with water and stick it in the freezer. When you need to ice, grab a towel and your ice cup. Tear the paper away about .25 inches below the ice. Rub the ice on the affected area for 3-5 minutes. (Careful not to overdue here--frost bite you know.) The muscle will stay cool for about 20 minutes. Viola! No time consuming bulky ice pack. Just return the ice cup to the freezer for use another time.
Nov 9, 2001 9:46 AM
|as long as you anyway must have pre-frozen the cup, you might as well pre-freeze one or two reusable gel packs. Any serious athlete would already have them in his/her freezer (takes up little space too), and have their velcro wrap somwehere handy as well. Not time consuming, not bulky, reaches everywhere, can use for 15 minutes without frostbite, won't leak.
I think the idea for the ice cup is more for runners with plantar fasciitis-type ailments, where they may want to roll the sole of their foot back and forth on something and ice at the same time (another idea along the same lines is a bag of frozen peas). Then maybe it has some merits. Just a tip from the ET.
Nov 9, 2001 9:58 AM
|"Peas On You", actually, I use frozen packs of vegetables all the time. Great idea!|
|aPEASe your muscles!||Tig|
Nov 9, 2001 11:24 AM
|I agree. A bag of frozen peas works well for most joints and muscles. Wrapping the bag around the body part is much easier than bigger chunks of ice.|
Nov 9, 2001 10:24 AM
|Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the ice will cool the muscle more deeply than a traditional cold pack would. Anywho, that's the reason my PT told me to do this instead of traditional ice packs. Two PT's have urged me to do ice massages instead of cold packs. I'll drill my therapist about the reasons why and follow up afterwards.|
Nov 9, 2001 10:35 AM
|Ice Paks, in order to stay flexible, do not freeze, therefore they are not quite as cold. However, not enough to quibble about!|
|re: Frostbite||Js Haiku Shop|
Nov 9, 2001 11:30 AM
|i've iced the heck outta leg & knee injuries (i crash mtb quite often), sometimes for 60+ minutes, and have never had any sign of frostbite. what gives?|
|Maybe your not alive?||Kristin|
Nov 9, 2001 11:36 AM
|...naw...dead people can't write good haiku.
Were you using straight ice with no barrier layer between the skin and the ice? The ice massages that I do get rubbed directly on the skin...its colder than you might expect. I can only tollerage about 3 minutes of it before my skin starts to sting. I'm not sure you could actually get frostbite from this, but I'm sure you could damage a muscle by holding a chunck of ice on it for too long.
|sometimes it seems that way!||Js Haiku Shop|
Nov 9, 2001 11:55 AM
|the ice-in-a-dixie-cup is a trick i learned in '99 for running injuries/pains. i either use that or a freezer gel pack or ice in a ziploc baggie. for any of these, it will sting pretty good until the area to which it's applied becomes numb from the cold, then no worries.
if you read this, i take a beta blocker, by the way.
|I've been that foolish||gust-of-sun|
Nov 9, 2001 1:49 PM
|About two years ago I injured my ankle skateboarding and it required icing. I had just read a trick for icepacks where you mix water and rubbing alcohol so when you freeze the mixture you get a gel instead of a solid. What they neglected to mention was that, given a cold enough freezer, you could make a cold pack that was much colder than the freezing point of ice. I did in fact give myself frostbite...in july.
Frostbite, according to my "cold injuries" book, occurs when you solidify the liquid inside your cells. regular ice is unlikely to do this since it naturaly forms an "insulating" layer of water between the solid ice and your skin. the water will never be below freezing, therefore you won't get frostbite.
My general rule is that any cold pack should be removed when you lose feeling due to the cold in the injured area. Take it off till the feeling comes back, then ice some more.
Be careful, frostbite sucks.
|cool (no pun intended), thanks! nm||Js Haiku Shop|
Nov 9, 2001 2:27 PM
Nov 9, 2001 3:27 PM
|I had frostbite too, but not like yours. Mine was on my pinky finger. I reached into the freezer with wet hands. My pinky got stuck to the freezer. When we got my hand out, half of my finger looked like cooked chicken. But it all healed so...no harm no foul. I got to gross a lot of people out.|| |