Nov 5, 2001 6:27 AM
|What's the best way to deal with an overly eager dog? |
|actually, I thought Sloan's been pretty civil here :-) (nm)||ET|
Nov 5, 2001 6:33 AM
|Before CO2, a good frame pump always worked wonders. (nm)||Elefantino|
Nov 5, 2001 6:37 AM
|sprint and yell "NO!" nm||Dog|
Nov 5, 2001 6:40 AM
|re:Growl and bark loud as you can then sprint. nm||dzrider|
Nov 5, 2001 6:46 AM
|re: Dog attacks||McAndrus|
Nov 5, 2001 7:14 AM
|If I mention anything already posted, please forgive me.
I always prefer sprinting away and it works 98 percent of the time.
Some other tricks I've used, seen, and heard:
- Yell "no" or "stay" and sprint away (already posted)
- If the dog is aggressive and has the angle on you so that you can't sprint away, stop and scold it firmly. It thinks you're some kind of game animal and will be confused by this action.
- If you've stopped and scolded and it still seems aggressive, get off the bike and put it between you and the dog. I've done this a couple of times and after a rew minutes the dogs lost interest.
- Spray water on the dog from your bottle. Confuses the snot out of them and the expression on their faces is priceless.
- Personally I don't recommend trying to hit one with a pump. I can't see how I can maintain my balance and direction while swinging at a moving animal. And what if I miss??!!
- Last trick which I saw a couple of weeks ago. I was riding with a small group when a dog came up on the side of the road about 50 yards ahead of us. He was sizing us up and getting ready to charge into the road. One of our guys stood up and sprinted right at the dog - at full speed. It scared the cookies out of the animal who bolted back into his yard. It's a great trick but I think I'll use it with discretion.
|Couple'a more||nee Spoke Wrench|
Nov 5, 2001 7:27 AM
|My wife just talks baby talk to them, the dogs tend to just match our speed and run along side until they get tired. Don't know how well this would work on an aggressive rotwiler.
While following another tandem a while back, the other stoker used a gizmo that looked like a co2 inflator which made a high pitched squeek. That dog acted like he had run into an invisible wall. I havn't been able to find a supplier for the gizmo, but I really havn't tried very hard.
Nov 5, 2001 12:45 PM
|Yes, I remember that - it used to be called the "shoo". Dogs hate it because the - for us silent - noise it emits is very irritating. You should be able to find it at a large pet supply mail order place like R.C. Steele. I might look into that. Thanks for reminding. Dag|
|Go at them||vanzutas|
Nov 5, 2001 9:31 AM
|I don't like to take my hands off the bar to spray them or hit them with a pump. I just look em in the eye and ride 90% speed at them, they will go around to try to bite you. at the last second give it all you got and they will miss and end up behind you. then ride like hell and hope your riding partner is slower than you are.|
|re: Dog attacks||Ken|
Nov 5, 2001 7:37 AM
|I like to kick them in the chops. I have frogs on my roadbike and I can disengage my foot from the pedal in a split second.|
|re: Dog attacks||badabill|
Nov 5, 2001 7:46 AM
|never had to use my frame pump but I carry one just in case, To cheap to pop for $2.50 Co2 cart. every time I get a flat. I still laugh at the time me and a friend had to sprint away from 2 dogs at the end of the Joshua Tree century. We were trying to break 5hrs and with about 10 miles left they attacked. The sorriest excuse for a sprint in my life, if these dogs had given it another 100 feet they would of had us. I just hoped my partner gave out before I did :-)|
|co2: 24pack=$13, walmart. nm||Js Haiku Shop|
Nov 5, 2001 8:53 AM
|Using pump only upper body workout I get (NM) :-)||badabill|
Nov 5, 2001 9:11 AM
|re: Dog attacks||morey|
Nov 5, 2001 7:49 AM
|I carry an ammonia spray bottle. It really works!!!|
|wear sunglass to get "alien look"...mess 'em up...style pts 2..nm||jagiger|
Nov 5, 2001 7:50 AM
|Come to a screeching halt, dismount, and chase the dog||Largo|
Nov 5, 2001 7:51 AM
|Or, chase the owner.
Works for me. Dogs respond well to being dominated, and if you show that you are the "big dog", the dog will bolt.
Plus, i just hate people who can't control their dogs.
Walking home from school the other day, and there is this old Cocker Spaniel (i hate those dogs) who always come out barking and growling.
Well, i am walking along the opposite side of the road, old fella comes running over, with the lady and her kids outside, just watching. She says nothing, so i give the dog a punt with the side of my boot, nothing savage, but it sure took the mutt by surprise.
And she just looks on. Amazing.
|Come to a screeching halt, dismount, and chase the dog||morey|
Nov 5, 2001 7:53 AM
|I actually stopped, chased a dog, then bit its ear. In front of the owner, who felt I had gone mad. I was!!!!|
|Reminds me of an old Steve Martin joke ...||tarwheel|
Nov 5, 2001 8:18 AM
|I gave my cat a bath today. Yuck! I'm still trying to get the fur off my tongue.|
|Get off the bike and play fetch with it, of course! (nm)||Kristin|
Nov 5, 2001 7:56 AM
|re: Dog attacks||LLSmith|
Nov 5, 2001 8:27 AM
|So far yelling "get out of here" in a loud angry voice has worked. I yell that as im trying to get away as fast as possible.If I see them in the distance I change my route whenever possible.|
|Halt! (the spray) really works well...||NewRoadBiker|
Nov 5, 2001 9:03 AM
|I've unfortunately had to find out for sure once when I was chased by a couple of junkyard looking dogs that started after me. I yelled at them for a bit but they weren't turning around, when they got about a foot from me they both got a shot of pepper spray in the face. That stopped them in their tracks. I now carry the stuff with me whenever I ride solo. Let me say that I don't like to see people be cruel to animals but when it comes down to getting bit by some unknown dog, I'll do what it takes.
|a SQUIRT from the water bottle stops'em dead (nm)||Indiana Rider|
Nov 5, 2001 9:34 AM
|A dog disabled itself on a recent ride||Tig|
Nov 5, 2001 10:37 AM
|We were riding single file along a road that had a corner gas store next to it. Out of a truck bed across the parking lot came a barking doberman heading towards us at full speed. His intentions and focus were clear... so clear he didn't notice a steel pole that was in his way as he corrected his angle of attack. BAM! He sideswipes it on his right side, gets spun sideways at whatever a doberman's top sprinting speed is, slides in some gravel and tumbles into the ditch that separated the parking lot and our road. Never in history have so many cyclists laughed so hard at an attacking dog! Revenge can be sweet...|
|re: Dog attacks||kyroadie|
Nov 5, 2001 10:54 AM
|If there is no way to out sprint the dog, dog has the angle, or I am climbing a long hill, I have found that calling the dog will usually stop its advance.
In my more aggessive days, I used to ride right at the dog. But this tends to freeze some dogs and if you are not careful can cause a wreck.
|bark, seriously||Duane Gran|
Nov 5, 2001 11:56 AM
|One time I barked at a dog and it stopped dead in its tracks. It's worth a try.
If a dog does attack and bit you, try to determine the owner and take whatever action is appropriate. I would think filing with the police would be the thing to do.
|stop and pet he is crying for attention!||cyclopathic|
Nov 5, 2001 12:36 PM
|More dog stories||guido|
Nov 5, 2001 12:51 PM
|Lots of dogs on these farm-to-market roads in East Texas. Once rode with a guy who carried a little .22 pistol. He actually shot at a dog giving chase from the dog's property. I fully expected the dog's owner to return fire with a shotgun.
I was cresting a hill once, as six dogs came running out onto the road in front of me. I stopped abruptly, afraid of hitting one of them, and toppled over on my bike. They all ran away as I hit the ground.
Another time cresting a hill, a pit bull challenged me from the front. I stopped. As I was talking to him in an authoritarian voice, he lunged at my front wheel, and bit my tire, flat. The owner was nice about it. He offered me a ride back to town in his pickup.
Then once a beagle sized dog ran like crazy out his driveway to greet me coming down a hill at 25mph. He attacked my rear wheel, but I was going so fast I barely felt it. Apparently he got his nose stuck between spokes and got smacked against the chaninstay. Looked around and saw the dog in obvious pain, scratching his nose on the ground. A few days later, finally noticed he had broken the right spoke flange on my rear hub, luckily not any of the spokes, which probably would have stopped me from riding home.
Once heard a story, from Austin, USCF race, a breakaway single rider up the road, dog racing across a field in hot pursuit. The dog jumped the rider like a football tackle, all toppling over, then the dog ran back across to where he came from, "mission accomplished."
Most dogs will run up beside you and chase or pace you to the end of it's property. Baby talk has worked well for me in 90% of the aggressive chasers. I've been told that many times dogs don't really know that you are human until you speak. Any theories on that? Those big aggressive dogs make excellent sprint training! For those who don't want to sprint, MACE works great, but you have to be in front of the dog's nose, and be careful not to hit riding partners.
Nov 5, 2001 12:56 PM
|Squirt them on the face. Works every time. |
I've had similar luck using this technique with annoying roller bladers although I aim for the leg rather than the face.
|my favorite method as well. -NM||Tig|
Nov 5, 2001 3:00 PM
Nov 5, 2001 1:00 PM
|Last spring, I was bitten by a German Shepard above the ankle/below the calf. The scars are still there and the bite area still looks swollen. I was in an area where I couldn't get away and the dog didn't look aggressive. After I got home, I DROVE back to the owners and let them know what happened and that if they would keep there dog confined to their property as required by law, I would let it pass. The dog has not been out since.
This Saturday a lab that has been a problem came out at me. This was in an area where I could out-sprint it, but if my wife was with me, she could not (if I left her behind to get bitten, I would be sleeping out side with my two dogs). Instead, I slowed down to let it catch up and then planted an Axo Summit shoe firmly upside its head. I guess I'll see if it helps next time I go by there.
If there is a loose dog along a route, my wife refuses to go. The only ones I have an actual fear of is the many pit bulls that seem to be around my best loops, but they have always been confined.
I am not sure of what legal recourse you have after getting bit. I all but the one case, the owners are much worse to deal with than the dogs.
|Thanks you are great!||dagnelson|
Nov 5, 2001 1:05 PM
|Thanks for all the advice, very usefu,l I think I came up w/a plan. I will practice communicating with the friendlier looking dogs which are just chasing. I will try to take some back-up for the Rottweilers and Pitbulls. I am by no means afraid of dogs since I myself own an American Bulldog but I've seen my share of what a dog can do. After all they are animals. Heard a bad story about a rider in my area which was attacked by a dog who went directly for his throat - I don't think he survived it, the rider that is. And then I saw 2 Rottweilers as big as calves last Sunday...Dag|
|Where are all these dogs?||filtersweep|
Nov 5, 2001 3:38 PM
|The only places I see dogs are on MUTs- either the stoopid owner with the leash over the entire trail (usually walking on the wrong side of the trail at that) or the stoopid owner with the unleashed dog running loose. I've seen too many dogs freeze if approached directly, so I usually go for the human- it gets the human's attention who usually gets the dog's attention. I've never been chased- my concern is hitting the dog (which I don't want to do). On the roads, I assume the cars take out most of the canines... unless we are talking about a farm dog in the middle of nowhere. There's also a large fenced dog park near my typical route, which takes care of most of the issue.|
|Where the dogs are...||dagnelson|
Nov 6, 2001 6:29 AM
|They are on rural routes, small highways in GA. Some in yards, some on farms. 2 were running along "chasing" us on a huge farm which was fenced in (wire fence) so I wasn't worried but then one of them actually squeezed out from under the fence and was now pursuing on the road. Looked like some Setter/Retriever type so I wasn't too worried, but it's still unsettling. The thing is, the bike group goes down those roads all the time - the dogs should know them by now...well maybe they do...know how tasty they are.|
|Use your water bottle||wink|
Nov 6, 2001 10:45 AM
|Take the water bottle and squirt the dog right in the face. It will stop it cold and cause no damage to you or the dog and it does not cost anything|| |