|Tubular vs. Clincher??||Rusty McNasty|
Nov 2, 2001 7:34 AM
|Hey, we haven't had this flame war in a while!
Tubulars (for most situations) Rule!!!
|rusty..you don't need to flame||dupe|
Nov 2, 2001 7:39 AM
|you are pretty well sussed when it comes to wheel pro's and con's.
oh,.. tubulars ;-)
couldn't help myself!!!
seen more dawns than farmers
Nov 2, 2001 7:40 AM
|A flame war for the sake of a flame war? What a DOPE you are!|
Nov 2, 2001 12:57 PM
|Yes he is.|
|I have a question||vanzutas|
Nov 2, 2001 7:52 AM
|Is it OK to start a flame war if you admit that you are starting a flame war? we all know who Rusty is and that he is a bit abrasive so there is no secret to what he is doing. he didn't make up some name so he seemed legit.
I don't see any reason to use Tubulars. Clincher quality has gone up tremendously and you can repair them easier on the road. Tubulars are obsolete, I ride clincher all the way.
|re: Tubular vs. Clincher??||morey|
Nov 2, 2001 8:12 AM
|I used tubulars from 1970's to just recently. I really like the ease of flat replacement. I also like their ride.
I just recently got clinchers on my Mavic Kysyriums, no flats to fix yet, however they do ride rougher. These are top of the line Continental Supersonics. I am still not sold on the ride or ease of changing a flat tire on clinchers. I am still a tubular person. However, I must say that only top of the line tubulars are the way to go.
|of COURSE Supersonics||Dreadfred|
Nov 2, 2001 8:33 AM
|Supersonics are race-only tires. They are so thin no wonder they ride rough.|
Nov 2, 2001 8:31 AM
|If you wanna spend all your time messing with em fine, but don't try and buffalo all of us into thinking that they are "worth the time". Pros only ride 'em because someone else does the dirty work. I bet for training they all use clinchers.|
|If you must ...||breck|
Nov 2, 2001 9:57 AM
|If you must ... |
On a helpful note is to run the brakes a bit after installing the tubular on the road. Will heat up the "glue" for better seal. Conti GP's run pretty much the same feel as a good quality current mid-line tubular.
-notes from my bud Campy Man during a desert ride, 1997
Campy Man was a Britt national team racer back in the 50's specializing in climbing and now lives and rides here in the mountains for the bgcc club. He is 70+ years old & Colnago w/full Chorus is his ride. He said they used to ride to the races with their two good tubular over their shoulders in a figure eight fashion; change and race; change back and ride home.
My feeling is that in order to really "pay your dues" as a true died in the wool road biker one should opt for tubular at least enuff to get the feel of them. Of course am not past the down tube shifter stage yet, though did upgrade the rear to D/A 8-speed SIS :)
|If I had a support vehicle following me...||Tig|
Nov 2, 2001 10:43 AM
|...you can bet I'd ride tubulars exclusively. Besides, the Mavic car's wheels NEVER have the right magnet! LOL I love the feel and handling of tubies. Many people that flame them have never had the pleasure of riding them for years.
However, since I'm on a budget with one set of wheels, and I don't want to have that second flat 50 miles from home I'm on clinchers. Carrying a spare tire is a must, but 2 or 3 is out of the question. I leave the smell phone at home since getting away from any ball and chain is what riding is about for me. Cell phones are for others in my club to port around if they wanna'. So, clinchers win for my style but I miss the ol' smoothies.
|where do i put the Mr Tuffy on tubular?||heavy weight|
Nov 2, 2001 11:23 AM
|glue to outside of tire?|
Nov 2, 2001 11:25 AM
|That reminds me, what do old-timers think of the Tufo tubular clinchers?
I doubt tubulars are good for newbies because they sound relatively complicated to fix, but the idea of not having instant deflaction while descending a hill (not including rolling it off the rim while pushing a curve) sounds safer than the instant deflation of clinchers when you get a flat.
Are these Tufo tubular clinchers just marketing hype for plain clinchers or are they really some sort of hybrids that combine the best qualities of both?
Nov 2, 2001 11:43 AM
|They are difficult to put on, they are heavy, they are noisy, but they ride very well and indestructible. Say goodbye to flatting frequently.|
|Race wheels tubular, everything else clincher||JS|
Nov 2, 2001 1:00 PM
|I am building some race wheels that are tubular but for training and non-competitive riding the hassle seems too much, clinchers are pretty darn good.|| |