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VO2 max(14 posts)

VO2 maxWoof the dog
Oct 31, 2001 2:33 PM
Hey, I got the first part of the test done. VO2 max came out to be 66 ml/kg/min or 3.85 L/min. Is that good or just average? I have no clue, thats why I am asking.

re: VO2 maxCHRoadie
Oct 31, 2001 2:55 PM
From Lance Armstrong's website:

"OK, I know VO2 max is important - I just don't know what it is!" No worries, here's what's what: your VO2 max measures the volume of oxygen your body can consume while exercising at max capacity (or aerobic fitness). So "VO2 max" is the maximum amount of oxygen, expressed in milliliters, you can use in one minute, per kilogram of bodyweight. Most charts have anything above 50-60 as "high" - Lance is an 83.8...

Your 66 would rate as "very high" on most scales. Mine is currently 44 - or "moderate". Working on it! :-)
re: VO2 maxWayne
Oct 31, 2001 3:17 PM
Pretty sure elite endurance athletes usually are in the 70+ range, I think I remember that Indurain's was in the high 80's and was one of the highest ever recorded (which is even more impressive when you think about how big of a guy he was).
re: VO2 maxWoof the dog
Oct 31, 2001 4:22 PM
So it can be improved, eh? I am just thinking how long does it take to go from lets say 66 to 68? I know, it depends on training. I can already see rollers and trainers.
re: VO2 maxJon
Oct 31, 2001 5:35 PM
With that VO2 max score your bite is just about as bad as your bark! You enjoy pretty significant
aerobic capacity. With the proper kind of interval training you could expect to improve by
anywhere from 6 - 10%, depending of course on how fit you are right now. Holding a peak for
more than a couple of months at a time, however, can be tough to do, which is why race training
is normally periodized.
Hey Jon! warning, serious thread drift...peloton
Nov 1, 2001 11:03 AM
Remembering you are a fan of ski racing as well. Unfortunately just passing along bad news.

Did you hear about Regine Cavagnoud (2001 World and World Cup Super G champion)? She passed away yesterday morning from the injuries she sustained on Monday when she collided in training with Marcus Answarp, a German coach. Unbeilevable still. She is the first World Cupper to die in a training or racing accident since Ulrike Maier back at Garmish in 94. She was third in the first World Cup of then year just last weekend too. Very sad time for ski racing.
Hey Jon! warning, serious thread drift...Jon
Nov 1, 2001 12:59 PM
I've been following the story. It made me slightly ill when it happened. The coach might not make
it either. The biggest downside to the sport is the injury rate and the severity of knee and head
injuries. Similar to hockey. I've got one kid who is a pretty good skier. In a sense I'm glad he
went the instructional route rather than continued to race beyond J2, for two reasons: the cost
to me, and the physical risk to him.
Nov 1, 2001 6:44 PM
the easiest waycyclopathic
Nov 2, 2001 5:47 AM
is to loose weight. 3% would push you from 66 to 68.
Interval training is known to improve VO2max good luck
since it's ml per Kg....Dream plus
Nov 1, 2001 9:16 AM
leaving all else the same, ( a minute's still a minute ) if you divide the total ml, by a smaller weight (mass = Kg ) you will get a higher ml/Kg/min. So the fastest way to increase VO2 max is to lose weight.
Funny you should ask.Largo
Oct 31, 2001 8:16 PM
I just got back from the University where i am involved in a program testing athletes 02 capacity, fitness, etc.
I am not exactly sure what they are doing, but apparently, the only way they used to be able to do this was to stick a catheter into the heart.
They are testing this new method involving inhaled acetylene!
Anyway, from what i can gather, v02max is pretty unique to the individual, and as the above poster mentioned, can be trained to a certain extent (i was told about 15% max gain)
According to the testers, they are starting to find that V02 max is not directly related to how well you perform athletically, although it is a good indicator.
Your 66 is quite high, mine was 53.5.
While you were 3.85, i tested 5.85L/min, but i have hge lungs.
But again, they are starting to find that these nimbers don't neccesarliy mean you are a good/bad athelete.
For instance, while my 53.5 isn't super high, i was cranking out 540 watts at the end of the test.
What other tests will they have you doing?
how do you get lined up for one of these tests?metonymy3
Oct 31, 2001 9:17 PM
A lot of people seem to the doing this test, but where do you go to get one, how much is it, what do you do, etc.? Thanks.
how do you get lined up for one of these tests?Woof the dog
Nov 1, 2001 5:06 AM
Usually universities have human performance labs (I assume a lot of them do). Tests like these cost like 200 $ but sometimes they are looking for subjects when they do some kind of study/project. You hear about it, you get it done for free. I'd call them up and ask them when they will need new subjects for testing next. Maybe you will be lucky.

Also, I am gonna go do the second part of the test which involves pedaling at 80% of your VO2 max and they will take blood samples periodically to determine...uhm...lactate threshhold or something like that.

Yeah, its true that VO2 max doesn't mean all that much. You can have high VO2 max and easily get dropped in a race, like me ;-P


Woof the oxygen dog
Performance TestsWayne
Nov 1, 2001 6:10 AM
True VOmax isn't the end all of physiologic tests for aerobic performance but it's still a pretty good one. I've read that VO2max is usually topped out after 1.5 to 2 years of serious training. Lactate threshold as a percentage of Vo2max can take up to 5 years to top out, after that most gains in performance are due to improved economy and ability to recover from day to day efforts. I think the gold standard that pro teams look at to evaluate talent is power at lactate threshold during a Conconi test or other standard ramped effort test. I think they also look at how fast you can recover from supra-threshold efforts. Then of course you have all of the intangibles, but without the legs (well cardiovascular system) they don't really come into play.