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Ciocc Aluminio vs Scattante Airplane(13 posts)

Ciocc Aluminio vs Scattante Airplanemorey
Oct 31, 2001 10:13 AM
I am trying to decide between these frames for my son. I(we) had Ciocc steel frames which we liked. My son is primarily a recreational rider, however he is fast. What should I do?
Where can I find info?McAndrus
Oct 31, 2001 10:47 AM
www.ciocc.com is not working for me and Google can't find an Aluminio. Do you know a site with information on it?
Where can I find info?morey
Oct 31, 2001 11:04 AM
I could not get the CIOCC site to work either, went to Google and put in CIOCC bicycles, a bicycle shop in Chigago came up, it has the description.
Will you adopt me?McAndrus
Oct 31, 2001 11:15 AM
Assuming the prices are equivalent, I'd go for the Ciocc. They're both beautiful looking rides but I'd have to go on reputation and I know Ciocc has a respectable reputation.

If I let you adopt me will you buy me one too?
Here's the importer's websiteTig
Oct 31, 2001 11:15 AM
http://www.zarintl.com/Framesets/ciocc.htm
re: Ciocc Aluminio vs Scattante AirplaneMCCL
Oct 31, 2001 12:22 PM
Try Http://www.maestro-uk.com/ when you get into the pages click on brochures to get the price. Lb Stertlin to Dollar is about 1 Dollar to 1.46 you will need to check. Probably the best price on a Ciocc. I am looking hard at one to druling. Good Luck
re: Ciocc Aluminio vs Scattante AirplaneCrazyMan
Oct 31, 2001 5:47 PM
i second the maestro-uk suggestion.
never actually ordered, but his prices are out of this world, and he's a pleasure to talk to.
A vote for the CioccDMoore
Oct 31, 2001 2:13 PM
I still have my '84 Ciocc Mockba replica, so I'll be the first to admit bias. It's my understanding the Scattante is a "house" brand for Supergo, sourced in Taiwan. Unless there's a big price differential, I'd go with the Ciocc just based on their history and my past good experience with their bike.
thoughts...Colombian Climber
Oct 31, 2001 5:33 PM
There was a large thread here about the scattente Airplane. Some people indicated (without proof) that the Airplane was made at the cinelli factory while the Zonal was made in taiwan. regardless... I have an Airplane and I love it. It is the same cinelli Aliante with slightly different tubing. You can not get any better aluminum out there (not sure what the Ciocc uses).
The scattante is beutiful, very responsive, light, forgiving, and unique. I am sure that the Ciocc is a very nice frame but does it cost $740? :-).

Good luck with your choice.
Proof they are not both made by cinellimatt
Nov 1, 2001 7:28 AM
The cinelli(as do most Italian frames)has Italian threaded bottom brackets. The Scattante is english. Cinelli wouldn't retool their factory to manufacture a frame under a different label. That fact alone eliminates any Italian frame builder. They use those damn Italian threads out of spite or home town pride, can't figure out which.
hardly proofAGWNAANLLOYD
Nov 1, 2001 8:15 AM
No retooling needed to use an Ital vs BSC BB shell. And there are some small Italian builders that use BSC BB shells, believe it or not.
IncomparableTroyboy
Nov 1, 2001 8:03 AM
Apples and oranges. Long time Italian craftsmen using 61.10 tubing with carbon stays comparable to the mystery whatever is in the Scattante? I don't think so.
MYSTERY? Columbus Airplane and Carbon Carve?nestorl
Nov 1, 2001 12:08 PM
Don;t know where the mystery is. Airplane is the top columbus alu. Used by many pro team at the major races (like tdf). Unles they are Lying, (Which they can not) the scattante airplane use colunbus airplane and carbon carve. SO I am not really sure where you are coming from...