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What kind of miles qualify as "base miles"?(20 posts)

What kind of miles qualify as "base miles"?Humma Hah
Oct 26, 2001 4:26 PM
Here's the deal -- I got in about 21 miles today by commuting, taking a quick ride at lunch, and taking the long way home. If I can do that every day, a good week will rack up 100 miles. I can, if I stick to it pretty well, continue meet my modest goal of 70-80 miles/week for the whole year. I'm using the headlight coming home, so earlier darkness will not be a factor.

The trouble is, no one ride is more than about 8.5 miles. I'm getting in enough "base miles" to supposedly keep me in shape for a century, if MB1's general advice is correct, but 8.5 miles does not seem long enough for any kind of distance training.

I'll take whatever kind of riding I can get, but if I try another century with this kind of base miles, am I gonna get whupped? I'm used to getting in at least a few 40-50 milers before a century.
get lostDog
Oct 26, 2001 4:37 PM
Do you have to take the direct route to work? Can you sort of get lost, and lengthen the commute?

I'd say you need some longer rides to prepare for a century. At least 20 miles at one time, once a week - absolute minimum. Can't you get a longer weekend ride in?

Doug
I am not a morning person ...Humma Hah
Oct 26, 2001 4:53 PM
... but getting lost on the way home is an option. Actually, the long way home takes me to the head of that parkway I used to ride while on my little sabbatical this summer, and a down'n'back on that would add a safe, convienent 18 miles to the 8.5 of the homeward commute. If I dropped to the 5W light, I might even make it on one battery.

Longer weekend rides will be a spotty opportunity. This weekend, I'll try to get in around 20, but it will be with the wife, and so a bit on the slow side. I'll get them in when I can, of course.
Hummacyclopathic
Oct 26, 2001 4:43 PM
any miles you can get better then nothing

your 8.5 miles are more then 1/2hr riding, enough to warm up and get your legs going.

get commute going then add another 30-60mi ride on weekend and you should be ok.

I believe riding a century shouldn't be difficult for any reasonably fit person. Riding it fast is another story

Get geared bike and come out on weekend to ride centuries with Crista. YOu can always cut it down to 75 or 50mi good luck.
No, no gears for Humma.MB1
Oct 27, 2001 4:42 PM
I'd love to see Humma show up for one of Cristas standard hilly rides (not one of the super hilly ones) on the cruiser. Don't be suprised but what he could do it-not fast but he would get there.

I think if he doesn't need gears or aluminum parts after 21 years-why mess with a good thing.
21?Humma Hah
Oct 28, 2001 6:01 AM
Where'd that number come from? I've been singlespeeding for about 43 years now, 30 on this bike.

And, with you a bit older than me, and with a pair of fixies in the stable, I'd say we vindicate that ancient quote on Sheldon Brown's site that gears should not be used by the average sport cyclist, but should be reserved for the very old, who can no longer manage without them.
Sheldon's "Very Old"Ray Sachs
Oct 29, 2001 4:53 AM
I believe the quote attached to many a fixed gear post is something along the lines of "geared bikes are only for people older than 45 years" or something to that effect. I *KNOW* that 45 was the number - I've got 2 1/2 years to go and I'm riding as much fixed as I can before the "gear police" come for me (or for my knees).

You 45 yet Humma? May need gears someday.

-Ray
I'm 48. Not ready for gears yet.Humma Hah
Oct 30, 2001 12:44 PM
78, maybe.
yeah, butcyclopathic
Oct 29, 2001 9:19 AM
he would blow knees trying to climb Iron Springs ;o)

Not that it cannot be done can't he do it for training?
re: What kind of miles qualify as "base miles"?9WorCP
Oct 26, 2001 5:45 PM
Honestly, base miles are many miles during one ride strung together w/out intensity training; it's getting used to pedaling for long periods of time. Buddy, we know you are a rocket scientist so no need to confuse your terms. You've done many long miles so you know what it takes. Only 8.5 at a time? You'll get whooped but you'll survive. Base miles are readily described as continuous hours in the saddle one after the other.
shwazzzzoodleWoof the dog
Oct 27, 2001 3:04 AM
can't you post a picture of yourself? I wanna know what you look like. Or you can forever stay another internet cartoon.

Sincerely
Woof.
try this link ...Humma Hah
Oct 27, 2001 5:50 AM
Hmmmm ... let's see, I do have an internet cartoon of me. I made this back in college. I look about the same now, am riding the same bike, no longer am a DJ (Tom Allen was my air name). The headgear was my home-made leather bike helmet, not much protection, but very warm and practical for Virginia Tech winters.

http://www.angelfire.com/va2/TomLigon/images/tomallen3.jpg
Any pic of Abe Lincoln will be close enough.MB1
Oct 27, 2001 4:23 PM
I've got one of him looking completely toasted after a short days ride-heck we finished before dark.

Should I post it Humma?
Sure - I never got a copy! (nm)Humma Hah
Oct 27, 2001 5:16 PM
nm
Don't let this happen to you-Humma Outed!MB1
Oct 28, 2001 7:26 AM
Heck, I don't look so bad, considering ...Humma Hah
Oct 28, 2001 3:19 PM
... that's after a century and a half. A little disheveled, maybe, and perhaps somewhat sweaty, but happy.

The cruiser looks fresh as a daisy.

Notice how long the shadows are? Still some daylight left, though. Might have done another 8 miles, and made it 160, if we could have avoided the hills.
Hills? I give you 150 flat miles and you say Hills??? nmMB1
Oct 28, 2001 8:35 PM
Humma, the more I ride the less I know.MB1
Oct 27, 2001 4:35 PM
I have always thought that if I could do it regularly in a week I could do it in a day. But since you are thinking of doing centuries 100 miles in a week with a bunch of short rides seems a bit lacking. Try to get some longer miles on weekends.

Perhaps when you go up to the cabin on weekends you could ride from your house (leave early) and have your wife pick you up 30-40 miles down the road. Or have her let you off 30-40 from the cabin or home. Commuting ain't bad but yours is pretty short, Doug has a good idea to lengthen the commute a bit.

If we are going to do the C&O any time soon you are going to have to step it up some. Sure it is all downhill but it is a hard 184 miles of dirt with only about a 680 foot drop. What grade is that anyway?

BTW are you thinking of any particular century?
I'd have to work it out piecemeal ...Humma Hah
Oct 27, 2001 5:22 PM
I believe about half the drop happens at Great Falls, so whatever average number I came up with would be wrong. 52.8 ft per mile is 1%. The full 680/(184*5280)*100 is about 0.06%. I encounter more grade than that riding around the airport at lunchtime.
LSDgrzy
Oct 29, 2001 9:35 AM
Gotta get some long slow distance in. Short rides are good for speed and maintaining, but if your objective is century training youy need to dig deeper - at least half of the objective. Body responds differently to duration. Why can't you get a long ride in on the weekends when the weather isn't too harsh? Afterall you're riding during the week.