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How much to build up your own bike(19 posts)

How much to build up your own bikeKMan
Oct 25, 2001 6:36 AM
I can get a Cannondale 2002 R900 for $1300 or the R700 for around $1100.

If I can get a frame for $300 what would it cost (aproximately) to build a bike up using comparable components?
The R900 is mostly Shimano Ultegra group, Mavic Cosmos wheels. Pedals not included

Better off just buying a complete bike?

Thanks
try thisDog
Oct 25, 2001 6:50 AM
Go to http://www.excelsports.com and add all the components you need to your "basket"; it will total it for you; that's about the cheapest you could find all the necessary parts, and would be fairly representative of the cost.

Don't forget anything:

Full group
seatpost
saddle
stem
handlebars
wheels
rim tape
tires
tubes
bar tape
pedals

Doug
try thisTed
Oct 25, 2001 6:58 AM
Or just buy a build group for $950 for ultegra. IT includes everything you need. Full group, open pro wheels, rim tape, tires etc.

Ted
that's no funDog
Oct 25, 2001 7:01 AM
What,you trying to make this easy? :-)

Doug
that's no funTed
Oct 25, 2001 7:04 AM
Hehe. Sorry I just bought a modified Daytona kit from them to build up a time trial bike so it was fresh in my mind :)

Ted
Over $200 cheaper at Pricepoint.comTheWanderer
Oct 25, 2001 8:34 AM
Full Ultegra (with the Open Pro wheels) for $719.98. Pretty sweet, no?
TW
re: How much to build up your own bikeLone Gunman
Oct 25, 2001 6:56 AM
I guess the only way to find out is to do the cost breakdown; Whole bike vs. piecemeal. And you also need to take into consideration the sledgehammer mechanic factor. If you are partially knowledgeable in being a bike mechanic and cross thread something major, there goes any cost savings. There are also little things to consider like tires, rim strips, bars, stem, seatpost, saddle and all the tools necessary to do the job right. Probably, you are getting the frame retail or reduced, the component group, retail or reduced (not likely prices are fairly stable in the up to date stuff) and the wheelset is possibly where a bargain might pop up over the net. On the other hand, buying the whole bike from the LBS build a good relationship with the shop and having a recourse should you have a part failure is not a bad thing. All things to consider. I am willing to bet that you will find the LBS route cheaper price wise, just a guess. The advantage of building it up yourself if capable is component choice, sort of like buying an Airborne.
oh, yes, the sledgehammer factorDog
Oct 25, 2001 7:01 AM
Good point. Not only do you need at least a couple hundred dollars of tools (reminds me, I forgot headset), but you might do something really stupid like I did, cut a steer tube too short. Very expensive mistake, but valuable lesson.

Doug
Airborne is a good middle road--go there anyway for the listChris Zeller
Oct 25, 2001 7:32 AM
If you are not quite ready to take the leap and build the bike yourself, assemble it yourself etc, and aren't stuck on specific components that are not in their inventory, going airborne is a good choice. It's what I did. On their site you can essentially build your own bike by selecting each component from a pretty big list of top quality components. They build it for you and you still get a package-built-bike-discount, like you would on a stock bike.

I'd go to their site anyway even if you have no interest in their bikes. Their configurator lists everything you need to build up a bike and you can play around with component choices etc. The site explains compatability issues as well. Print out the list and order the parts somewhere else if you like.

Some things not on the lists above:

Stack rings
seatpost clamp
tires
tubes
brake/derailer cables/housing
These are easy to forget but Airborne has it dialed on their site.
Frame and fork for $300 or just frame? (nm)Dave Hickey
Oct 25, 2001 7:03 AM
Cheaper to buy complete.k mand
Oct 25, 2001 7:15 AM
Yes

For example: Go to ebay or the used forum here. Alot of decent used Cannondale frames will be atleast $500 (caad4). Add Ultegra $900ish plus decent wheels $300 and the odds and ends like stem, bar, tape, post easily $2grand. The bike companies have huge buying power and economies of scale in negitiating with Shimano and Mavic.

Also, this time of year you can find closeouts on 2001 Cannondales for 65-70% of retail at shops.
re: complete, usedcyclopathic
Oct 25, 2001 8:00 AM
you can buy used Ultegra bike in good condition for 600-800$
Just remember....no warranty on used! nmjagiger
Oct 25, 2001 8:14 AM
do you keep your receipt around? nmcyclopathic
Oct 25, 2001 9:28 AM
I had your same problem onceShelley
Oct 25, 2001 9:12 AM
Not long ago I was in a similar situation, but with getting a mountain bike. Do I just go get a bike or build one up? Well I stumbled across a really great deal on the exact frame I wanted, to I decided to start from scratch.

The whole process took a while, hunting around for deals to get exactly what I wanted, but I would have to say worth it in the end. Now I already had quite a few tools for most of the work and had a bit of knowledge with working on previous bikes of mine. Installing the headset and cutting and installing the fork I left to my LBS. They didn't seem to mind working on something not purchased there, and I bought a few goodies while I was waiting around.

I now have a bike that gives me the satisfaction of knowing I put most of it together myself, got the exact parts I wanted and I don't look at it and think of what OEM parts I want to replace.
beware false economy, thoughDog
Oct 25, 2001 9:19 AM
I learned the hard way that it can be more expensive in the long run to buy a complete bike or complete build kit, if you end up changing out a bunch of parts you don't like. So, I'd get the complete bike or build kit only if you really want those parts, or you can still get the parts you really want for less money than buying everything separately in the first place.

BTW, don't hesitate to just go to the LBS and tell them what you want, and have them quote a price for you. Some will gladly do it, and then they may even install all the stuff for little or nothing if you buy it there.

Some may differ, but I would not buy everything mail order and then take it to the bike shop to install. I think it's just bad taste, even if that may be their business. It does make warranty issues difficult for them.

Doug
that's why you go to quality LBScyclopathic
Oct 25, 2001 9:36 AM
mine would take off any part I don't like and replace it with one I do. Of cause they take off wholesale and charge list still cheaper.

Agree not worth to buy a bike if you end up replacing 50% components but things like seat, stem, seatpost, pedals, cranks (if you need longer or triples) or handlebars I would expect.
re: How much to build up your own bikemackgoo
Oct 25, 2001 9:41 AM
Try these guys for parts. They beat every one I've seen by almost 30% on the Campy stuff. www.sdeals.com
(Additional)....Reason for my inquiry........KMan
Oct 25, 2001 10:42 AM
I have a pure MTB background and have bought and built many bikes. I do all my own maint. and sell and upgrade components often. I am fairly knowledgable about MTB bikes/frames/components/weights/prices/where to buy and would feel very confortable on short had notice to buy parts one by one and build up a quality MTB at a decent price.

Now I am turning to Road bikes and although I understand what components are needed I'm like a deer in headlights about quality parts/weights/good deals/wheelsets/where to buy...etc...you get the picture.

Trying to figure out if I'm better off getting the Cannondale R700 (around $1100) or the R900 ($1300) (2002 models) thru my shop or build up on my own over the winter (Would not know a good frame if one hit me in the head)
I know I'll get the Cannondale/Trek/Specialized/Giant.... bashes, but as I stated I am road bike stupid for off brands. (I own a Titus MTB)

Thanks for listening and offering any sugestions....
KMan