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Irresponsible Fantasy Bike(13 posts)

Irresponsible Fantasy BikeLeisure
Oct 23, 2001 5:05 AM
I would like to see what some of you think about when imagines are allowed to run wild. Yah, sure this is kind of a gearheads-come-out-of-the-closet subject and I'm sure it's been done countless times before but noone's obligated to respond by any means. What may be more interesting than what your absolute dream bikes are is what you would do after your dream bike and why, or any oddball ideas you may have come up with. It could be something you're working on or just kinda thought up one day, something quite humorous or something you actually feel very passionate about. I'm hoping that anyone that responds here can respect everyone else's ideas. I want to also have topics in the near future covering "irresponsible-fantasy rides", etc. Since these are supposed to be irresponsible fantasies we can save the technical/clique squabbles for later. I'll be the first to embarass myself with a couple of things I've thought about recently:

Full-suspension cyclocross bike. I would need a lot of money I didn't know what else to do with, but Seven Cycles carries a seldom-mentioned touring frame with the Teres 1.125"-travel suspension called the Traveler. I'm thinking the ideal fork would be a 1.125"-travel version of a Cannondale headshock. Seven could put in the appropriate-size headtube to accomodate the thing and I'd have a fairly balanced ride without any compromises in steering precision. Another possibility that could be more practical (i.e.-the stuff actually exists) would be the AMP linkage carbon fork. It might have been underbuilt for where mountainbiking has gone but for cyclocross I think it would be wild. I think it's less than two pounds and has a reasonable 2" of travel. Meaningless style-points would include that it's a linkage fork and has legs that look along the lines of Seven's carbon forks. The mandatory disc brake might actually be a good thing, as I could build up a (light) 3X wheel from an Open Pro with a Hugi or Phil Wood disc-hub and not have to worry about how to put on rim brakes. Who knows how the brake would be actuated though; it may mandate having a mountain-style handlebar setup if the brakes are hydraulic. I'm not sure if I'd go for a double crank with a mountain rear setup or a triple crank and the ordinary road setup. I haven't contemplated that far. But the goal is a bike that can both get to the trails and ride through them with reasonable proficiency. And it wouldn't be a complete tank.

Project Two is one I'm in the middle of right now, a campus cruiser. I've slapped together a bunch of spare parts that have been sitting at home forever, beginning with one of those old Trek Antelope frames. Remember those things? I still see tons of'em all over my U's campus. It's heavy, steel, has a flat top-tube, and a ridiculously slack headtube. Perfect for my lazy intentions. I hit it with paint stripper and painted it black, and have attached a Girvin linkage fork for stairs and hops. Being on a shorter headtube has allowed me to mess around with the thing and I've gotten rid of most of the J-curve which screwed-up the fork's rake as it went through it's travel. It feels better than it ever did before and I think it's just plain funny. I'm using these old $30 LX cranks with the middle chainring only. I've stripped the teeth off of the big ring and smoothed it down to keep my pants from getting eaten, so it's basically a 9-speed which is plenty for this purpose. You know that bizaare "I don't know why I'm so excited" feeling? That's where I'm at.
As an intellectual exercise only I have been thinking about how I would rig a stereo on the bugger. I posted it earlier in another discussion, but it would basically comprise a set of 10-12 sub-C batteries with a cheapo 20W amp and an MP3 player. I figure the speakers would be 4" coaxials mounted to barends. I don't intend to actually do this, but I figure I could with only a 2-3 pound penalty.

Well, I've shared. What do you guys think about?
PigNoseJohn Evans
Oct 23, 2001 5:28 AM
You could drive your mp3 through a pignose.
Nice colors!Leisure
Oct 23, 2001 11:24 PM
I like! Would you believe it crossed my mind to do a modified camoflauge after I stripped my frame? You walk into these stores now and there are fifty thousand colors with all sorts of textures and stuff. How about an adobe-textured sand colored frame? Or antique pewter? I even thought about a camoflauge arrangement substituting plum in for olive drab. It's evil!
Actually, I've built a few subwoofers (I really need a digital camera for this I feel so handicapped) so I can't help it if the idea occurs to me. I would have to do more than just have it there, though. I'd want it to look ambitious, like one of those 8" aluminum cone car subs (I think the site is To be practical though I'd probably use a 5" sub (really just an ambitious mid-bass) from Focal mounted in a plexiglass box in a bandpass format. I could also shove the amp and other stuff in there to clean up the installation. Now look what you did; I'm thinking even more about it.
re: Irresponsible Fantasy BikeMrCelloBoy
Oct 23, 2001 7:23 AM
Some of you are familiar!
re: Irresponsible Fantasy BikeCanada
Oct 23, 2001 7:45 AM
A few years ago Dean made a limited production carbon fiber
MTB. It was the coolest thing I have ever seen, only one tube
running straight ftom the steerer tube to the back, on the
bottom it flared dowt to the crank. It looked amazingly strong. It was full XTR, I can't remember the fork but I have
thought about it ever since.
The bike was listed for $5000 US which would make it about$7500 up here , I guess I'll have to keep checking those
lottery numbers.
Oh to dream.
Reminds me of the Trimble one tube MTB bikes -NMTig
Oct 23, 2001 7:58 AM
I've seen that one!Leisure
Oct 23, 2001 11:54 PM
I always thought it was pretty wild-looking. I've also seen books for sale describing how to do carbon fiber composites on your own. I guess if you really know your stuff you could conceivably make any shape of frame you want.
Carbon fiber also has great acoustic properties (the same properties that help it to damp-out vibrations in frames). Maybe I should be looking into that for my campus cruiser; the speaker enclosures could be molded right into a fully composite frame, and I could wire everything internally. Admittedly I don't think I'd trust myself enough to do it right the first time to take it on jumps or anything, but heck it would be cool.
Oct 23, 2001 11:29 PM
Tell me about it, I haven't seen it before.
My current irresponsible bike project =lonefrontranger
Oct 23, 2001 10:30 AM
2001 Colnago Dream Cross AD4 (pearl black/white)
Daytona 10
Dimensions cross crankset
Avid Shorty 6 brakes
ITM bar/stem
Flite Ti saddle
Cosmos wheels (black)
Kenda Kwick 30mm cross clinchers
Time ATAC pedals

The frame was shipped this week; should arrive any day. I've got the box of components ready to go when it does.

Not the lightest setup in the world, but this will be a nice 'cross and commuter bike.
My current irresponsible bike project =bn
Oct 23, 2001 10:41 AM
sounds nice but I hope your 'cross courses ain't too muddy... I think 10 is a mistake for serious racing (maybe even 9)
I've heard various on that...lonefrontranger
Oct 23, 2001 1:12 PM
I made the decision to go to 10 speed when the UK guys on forums insisted their 10 speed stuff is working fine in their conditions. I think they know mud.

Besides, one of the reasons I stubbornly insisted on a Campy 'cross setup is so that all my 700c wheels are compatible. My road bike has Record 10, so...
That's a pretty cool coincidence...Leisure
Oct 23, 2001 11:39 PM
I recently got Daytona-10 on my road bike. I was worried about the ten-speed thing too, mostly because of the chain. I was recently relieved to see some of these guys here using SRAM 9-speed on their Campy-10s without any problems. Whew.
Here's an idea I've been toying with.metonymy3
Oct 25, 2001 7:54 PM
I thought of this when I was riding one day. I actually thought about a frame which can hold water. It would be the solution to where to put the bottles. Even if just the seat tube and part of the downtube were used for water, it would be enough, especially if there was a nice big aero downtube. I thought about water sloshing around and making the bike unstable, or even mess up the ride, but no more that a water bottle, right? A Camelbak tube could come out of the frame, much like cable housings do on high-end frames, and up to the rider. To clean the thing, you might have to have a pressurized washer and drier, or if there was a hole about nickel or quarter sized in the frame, you could use a long cylindrical plastic bladder inside the frame, which could be pulled out by sticking a finger in and grabbing it, and put back in, cleaned (once out, you could take it to the sink and turn it inside out and really get it clean and dry. Then sticking it back in could be done with a rod that you stick in the bottom of the bladder, and them push it into the frame. No water would get in the frame this way, but condensationn would have to be ventilated.)

This obviously isn't for the average rider, but for the pros in a big time trial? The only thing that gets me is how to refill it during a ride, as the pros will drink more that 2 tubes of water.

Of course it wouldn't have to be a carbon frame. Ti or Al might work. The one thing is: doesn't monocoque carbon have some kind of foam in it that they wrap the carbon around, effectively making it solid? If it does, then maybe it would have to be lugged carbon or Al or Ti. Steel obviously would be terrible because the 1) you don't use steel in a TT, and 2) rust. Tell me what you think. It may be totally stupid, but it seems like the space inside the tubes is totally wasted.