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mystifying question(26 posts)

mystifying questionscottfree
Oct 22, 2001 7:20 AM
Ohter than style, can anyone give me a reason MTB-ers like visors on their helmets while roadies don't want visors?
re: mystifying questionjagiger
Oct 22, 2001 7:23 AM
Just a guess, but they might want to keep brush, branches, etcs away from their face & eyes. Provides some sun screening too.
Even more mystifyingmr_spin
Oct 22, 2001 7:40 AM
What's more mystifying to me is why some people, mostly roadies, will wear a cap under their helment. I can only guess they want the visor. No one will ever accuse me of being stylish, but that always looks ridiculous to me.
you, obviously, have a full head of hairtarwheel
Oct 22, 2001 7:44 AM
I've started wearing a cycling cap on longer rides because my scalp gets sunburned (through the vent-holes) without one. Not a problem before my hair started thinning, but it sure is now.
well, actuallymr_spin
Oct 22, 2001 7:54 AM
Okay, that's a good reason I hadn't thought of. Except you are wrong about my hair. It's thinning out on top.

So how do you explain women wearing caps? And men with all their hair? It still looks goofy to me!
from a woman who wears caps AND visors:lonefrontranger
Oct 22, 2001 8:51 AM
Mostly I wear a cotton cap under the helmet in weather between 60-40 degrees F for some added warmth without sweat / bulk. Colder than that I'll wear a thin balaclava under the cap. Other reasons to wear a cap include:

In rainy races the cycling cap keeps grit / water / wheel spray out of my eyes. On a sunny day, the visor on the cotton cap cuts down glare and keeps wind from going between my helmet and glasses (I wear contacts). It also catches sweat. On hot days, I don't wear one, just a small sweatband.

I wear a visor (on the same helmet) when on the MTB to keep branches / glare / debris out of my face, much like the cotton cap. However, the stiff plastic visor deflects weeds, stickers and branches much better than a cotton cap. I don't wear the plastic visor on the road bike because it causes horrendous wind noise and it tends to come loose at high speed (I'd guess due to air pressure / wind resistance, since bumpy descents on the MTB don't cause this). I could give a flying hang about fashion; I'm known to wear a Camelback on long, hot road races.

from a woman who wears caps AND visors:scottfree
Oct 22, 2001 11:40 AM
Oh man.
here's why I doDAC
Oct 22, 2001 8:22 AM
A fellow engineer that worked with me died from melanoma about 3 months ago. It started on his scalp, at the part of his hair. The doctor told him that wearing a cap would've prevented it.
Other reasons include: The brim acts as a sweat band, and the visor keeps wind from between my glasses and eyes.
A couple of thoughts...Delia
Oct 22, 2001 7:41 AM
1. Mud
2. Pebbles

Those things can take out your eye. Glasses can only do so much. I've had a few situations wearing my glasses off-road, after a heavy rain where I wished for one of those visors. For simple off-road trails , visors and body armor are a bit much but I can tell you from experience, the more technical stuff sometimes calls for such 'accessories'.
position?Js Haiku Shop
Oct 22, 2001 7:42 AM
though i wear cycling caps almost always under the helmet while road riding, they're on backward with bill-back. the more upright (at least for me) position on my mtb means that i'm not straining my neck to look up the road as much with the visor/bill-forward. i do use the bill forward and/or visor in rain or other precipitation.
Oct 22, 2001 7:47 AM
With a low road position the visor obstructs vision up the road and on the horizon. The higher the position the less the visor gets in the way hence more MTB riders use visors although I personally find them annoying regardless.
ps: i wear mtb helmet 100%, just w/out visor mostly. nmJs Haiku Shop
Oct 22, 2001 9:37 AM
Uhh...because visors work?cory
Oct 22, 2001 7:59 AM
I never saw a reason to have separate helmets for road and dirt, but I DO have visors on every helmet I own. If nothing else, they keep the sun out of my eyes when it's low in the sky.
Uhh...because visors work?scottfree
Oct 22, 2001 8:02 AM
Right. That's what's mystifying. Why do roadies shun something with obvious utilitarian value?
reason I askedscottfree
Oct 22, 2001 8:00 AM
was, my puppy ate my helmet this weekend (yes) and I borrowed my MTB brother-in-law's helmet with visor. On a dazzlingly bright ride, and a chilly day, I discovered:
Visors can be real nice to keep the sun from blinding you, and can also be helpful keeping cold air from watering your eyes/blinding you on fast descents. Thinking about getting a visor with my new helmet, wondered about any downsides.
Seem to remember..muncher
Oct 22, 2001 8:05 AM
that this one did the rounds long ago on the old board - I think the upshot was that, aside from someone who saw a MTB crash where someone lost the end of their nose when visor turned blade, there was no downside. I'm with you, and being in the UK it also keeps a lot of water from dropping on my face/glases in the rain too!
Giro Pneumomr_spin
Oct 22, 2001 8:21 AM
The Giro Pneumo, also known as The Wallet Drainer, comes with a snap-on visor. I've never seen anyone use it, however. You can get them on sale these days for a more reasonable price.
re: mystifying questionMcAndrus
Oct 22, 2001 8:03 AM
In the old days (70s and 80s) before helmets became ubiquitous, I always road with a cap so that I could flip the bill up if I was looking into the sun and down when I wasn't. If it was a hot day, I just took the cap off and stuffed it in my jersey pocket.

Nowdays I'm persona-non-grata if I show up for a ride without a helmet so I just have to live without the bill for sun and shade.

A couple of other posters said they were caps regardless but I find my head gets too hot in the summer. In the winter, I ride with a cap under my helmet.

Maybe it's just a fashion statement but I think cap-under-helmet looks kind of cool.
Roadies have a different position...DINOSAUR
Oct 22, 2001 8:11 AM
Because when you're low in the drops or on the hoods it's hard on the neck muscles to crank your head up to see above the visor. Mtb-ers don't have this problem as they ride in a more upright position. My thinking anyway, I have trouble depending on what riding glasses I am using. Saddle tilt also helps also I've found. IMHO....
Oct 22, 2001 8:32 AM
My Bell has a flipable visor with about 2 inches of adjustment, that gets you around that problem - also good for getting a nice level to cut out car lights at night, esp in the rain - it was pretty cheap too.
I dunnoDAC
Oct 22, 2001 8:30 AM
Why do MTB'ers wear baggy shorts and roadies don't? How about knobby tires? Front suspensions? V-brakes and disc brakes?
I think maybe it has something to do with using what works for what you are riding.
WellMel Erickson
Oct 22, 2001 8:54 AM
I ride road and MTB, about 2/3 road and 1/3 MTB. I have no use for a visor. Sunglasses do the trick for me on the road and a visor blocks my vision. Most of my mountain biking is done in the forest where blocking the sun is not very necessary. I haven't found that they help deflect branches or stones or mud any better than a regular, visorless helmet. I always wear eye protection, clear, yellow, orange or tint as necessary while mountain biking or road biking as they are the most effective means of protecting my eyes from all hazards, including UV. I think their utility is limited and they were originally put on mountain bike helmets to differentiate them for marketing purposes and to sell more helmets (gotta have one for road and one for mountain don'tcha know).
Sweat, glare, sunburn, eye protectionRich Clark
Oct 22, 2001 9:32 AM
I took the visor off my helmet when I switched from a hybrid to a road bike. Much easier on my neck. But some mornings the sun is right in my eyes, so I swap out my Headsweats for a cap.

I have to wear something to soak up the sweat and keep my bald pate from getting sunburned through the vent holes.

What I miss about the visor was that it sealed the gap between my face and the top of my glasses, protecting my eyes from bugs and other debris.

"I wear a cap, not a visor- I drink Budweiser." - Beastie Boysspeed-chump
Oct 22, 2001 2:07 PM
Style points for the BBs.javagenki
Oct 22, 2001 3:41 PM
re: mystifying questionDutchy
Oct 22, 2001 9:07 PM
I think the main reason for not wearing a visor on the road is the problem of blocked vision
when on the drops. I always wear the visor when riding MTB and always take it off for the road.
I have noticed that the visor keeps the rain off my glasses and obviously the sun off my face.
I guess tradition is the main reason most people (including myself) don't wear a visor while on the road.
The same question could be asked of "Camelbacks". Why do only MTB riders use them?
Although I do use one when it gets really hot +38C/100F