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Newbie Roadie needs Help(9 posts)

Newbie Roadie needs HelpDPari
Oct 21, 2001 1:30 PM
I have mountain biked for the last 2 years and just got into racing in the last few months. It became apparent that I would have to train on the road. Being 17, lacking cash, and wanting to improve, I bought a 2001 Trek 1000. This is the base model with Sora Components, Vuelta Typhoon Rims, Generic bars and Seatpost, threaded stem and fork. Yeah I know this bike sucks, but it was $450 which was what I had available. What should I upgrade first? Wheels? Fork? The seat is 4inches above the stem making for a wobbly ride when I try to stand up and pound. Also when I stand up and sprint or sprint from the drops---The whole bike is unstable. What can I do---please help!
re: Newbie Roadie needs Helpdsc
Oct 21, 2001 1:47 PM

Although I am not familiar with the bike that you bought, judging by the components it came with, may I suggest that instead of spending money trying to upgrade a (possibly) less than stellar frameset, save your money for awhile and look into buying used. I, too, only rode MTB (10 yrs) until recently, but I bought a '99 Lemond Zurich for under $1300 that the owner had upgraded to full Dura Ace, Reynolds Ouzo Pro carbon fork, and Rolf Vector Pro wheelset - among other things. This bike weighs just over 17 lbs. w/ pedals. I could probably race it if I wanted to, but century riding is my goal.
My point is, no way could I have come close to buying this much bike at this price point, had I bought new. Since road bikes take less abuse than MTB, buying used is a safe option. Anyhow, just my $0.02. Good luck!
re: Newbie Roadie needs HelpRich Clark
Oct 21, 2001 2:17 PM
I'd suggest that you not invest any more money in that bike. For one thing, it sounds like the frame's too small. You need to resolve the fit issues you seem to be having before you do anything else. Four inches is a lot of drop, especially if it's forced on you because the bars won't go higher and you have to have the seatpost pulled way out to get the saddle to the right height. And all that wobble makes me wonder if the top tube is too short, putting too much weight on the front wheel when you sprint>

Who did your fitting? Are you confident you got the right size frame, as opposed to whatever they had left over at the end of the season? If this is a recent purchase, there may be unresolved issues between you and the dealer.

Beyond that, upgrading components on an untuned entry-level aluminum frame is probably not a wise investment. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to buy better wheels, which you at least could move to your next (better) bike, but that won't help with the problems you're describing. Saving your money for a better bike would make the most sense.

Keep in mind that the Sora group is Shimano's only 8-speed road group. You'll have to replace the levers (by far the most expensive part of the group) before you can go to 9-speed.

So I'd suggest that you (1) resolve the fit issues, assuming they exist, and then (2) ride the bike into the ground and enjoy yourself while saving up for a better second bike (which could well be a used bike, as suggested in another post).

I think so too.nee Spoke Wrench
Oct 21, 2001 2:56 PM
It doesn't sound to me like this bike is sized very well for you. What I would suggest is a different stem that would raise the handlebars at least an inch or two. Then experiment with the fit so that when you buy your next bike, you'll have a better idea of what you need.
re: Newbie Roadie needs HelpElefantino
Oct 21, 2001 3:45 PM
If a bike shop fit you, I would agree with the others and discuss it with them.

If not, here is a suggestion: Buy a threadless stem adapter from Performance and buy one of their Topo MTB 10 degree riser stems. (I think they sell them in combo for about $25-$30.) That will hike your bars up and stabilize your ride. But other than that, and maybe some inexpensive clipless pedals, I wouldn't spend anything more on the bike. As a training tool for your MTB racing, it's fine.
Oct 21, 2001 3:55 PM
I run time aluminums on my Mtbike and put my Time carbons on my new road bike. I know Mtb pedals on road bikes are taboo, but I'm good with the Time system and I think it will help me get better with them on my MTbike. By the way I ride a Gary Fisher Paragon full XTR upgrade-Bont Racelites wheels, SXR fork, and Easton Carbon setpost, bar. FSA carbon Crankset--makes my race bike lighter that my frigin road bike! Makes me sick!
Oct 21, 2001 3:50 PM
The bike shop through in a $50 pro-fit where they measured about every part of my body then selected the frame size and stem lenght/top-tube length from those measurements. They had Treks from 49cm to 59cm so I didn't get stuck with what they had. I know the owner and the original price was $700 dollars before he cut me a deal. I know I should have saved my money for a better bike, but I wanted a cheap way to experience road riding before I spent over a grand on a bike. I love it, and wish I had a better bike, but I would have been out a lot of money if I didn't like it. The good thing is the shop does trade ins for what they sell, so in a year I'll probably move on up. Thanks--the wobbling-I thought came from my funky riding style!
be patient..ishmael
Oct 21, 2001 3:52 PM
save your money...others have said the same thing, my only addition would be that you should make your bike more comfortable by simply tilting the bars up and also get the stem as high as it safely says.....just ride the one your have till you come up with something better..take your time and look tall are you and what is your inseam, maybe someone will offer something..
Height DPariDpari
Oct 21, 2001 3:56 PM
I'm 6 foot even don't remember my inseam--have it written down with my seat height somewhere. 56 fit me well in the shop and test ride.