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So...Dog....arent we gonna hear about the misery..uh, I mean(25 posts)

So...Dog....arent we gonna hear about the misery..uh, I meanCat
Oct 17, 2001 1:37 PM
teh joy of the 508?
Oct 17, 2001 2:18 PM
I posted it in a thread that's fallen off already; so much activity today :-)

Bravo. (there is nothing else to say) nmbill
Oct 17, 2001 2:37 PM
Dude, you are crazy...UncleMoe
Oct 17, 2001 2:50 PM
I just rode 625 miles from San Francisco to San Diego in 9 days. I thought that was a pretty good accomplishment. What you did is so absolutely nuts that I'm a little jealous. It makes me want to do my 625 miles in 8 days next year.
Oct 17, 2001 3:07 PM
Congrats. I'll NEVER do that ride!

Did you try Ensure on any training rides before the 508?
Did Ensure sponsor you?Steve Davis
Oct 17, 2001 3:27 PM
I thought I noticed an Ensure sticker on your helmet. Wonder whether you've taken it off yet? (c:
that's Seana HoganDog
Oct 17, 2001 3:38 PM
She has real sponsors, and likely knows exactly what works for her, for she has the women's course record for the 508 as well as the women's RAAM record.

She just happens to wear a white Gyro helmet and rides a Bianchi (Titanio)

That's funnymickey-mac
Oct 17, 2001 3:46 PM
When someone (Cliff?) posted that photo from the 508 saying it was Doug, I thought the rider looked like a woman but didn't want to say anything for fear someone would think I was being a smart-ass. Thanks for the clarification.
Oops.Steve Davis
Oct 17, 2001 4:34 PM
I think that's funny too. I'm just glad that Doug doesn't wear his jersey under his bib shorts. My opinion of him is much better now. Not only did he ride the 508, but he doesn't look like the ad in the Performance catalog ;-)
OopsCliff Oates
Oct 17, 2001 5:06 PM
Hey, it was early in the morning...
Oct 17, 2001 3:40 PM
just not so much of it, and usually on long flat rides; the hills on this one make it harder to digest, I guess
Funny how...mr_spin
Oct 17, 2001 3:33 PM
In all the ads for Ensure that I've seen, they never show anybody puking the stuff up on a desolate roadway in Death Valley! What an opportunity missed.

This is all beyond my comprehension. But there is one question that sticks out in my mind: How sick do you have to be to attempt a solo RAAM?
too much sufferingDaveG
Oct 17, 2001 3:34 PM
Doug, enjoyed reading your wrap-up. Interesting stuff - it hurt just to read it! That is quite an accomplishment, congratulations! I have to admit I do not understand the whole ultra-distance thing. It seems too much about suffering, sleep-deprivation and masochism and not enough about riding. But thats just one view. Good luck next year.
the ultra thingDog
Oct 17, 2001 3:47 PM
Maybe part of it is "if you can't go faster, go further..."

It's a whole different sort of test, versus anything under 100 miles. There is a lot more to it, but, yes, it certainly is about riding, too. It's just sort of like it's assumed you can ride, now can you do these other things to be able to continue riding? There were sections of the race in which I was riding on the flats well over 20 mph, and climbing over 3,000 feet per hour. If anyone can just get into shape, get used to long stretches in the saddle, and then figure out the nutrition aspect, then it works. That's the trick.

the ultra thingDaveG
Oct 17, 2001 4:26 PM
Doug, you are obviously highly motivated by this, and that's a good thing. It shows a tremendous level of committment. Maybe I don't understand it because I don't have that same level of committment. Or maybe I just like my sleep. Either way, if you're happy, that is all that matters.
Thanks for the inspirationTig
Oct 17, 2001 4:37 PM
I'll bookmark the page for those days that I need a kick in the pants to get going. You must have learned quite alot. The Ensure reminds me of similar stuff that just sits in my stomach like a rock when riding. Getting rid of it is the only way to survive. Long live Hammer Gel!

You did a great race!
Oct 17, 2001 4:53 PM
Good read. I was hoping to see something like this. You've motivated all of us in some way or another. I'd bet a dollar to a dime you'll be doing Raam someday. Guess I'll stick to peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches and skip the Ensure.
you're the man (nm)dustin
Oct 17, 2001 5:36 PM
Oct 17, 2001 6:52 PM
that you used a mirror, that is. :-) Don't think we didn't notice. :-) Sounds like the Take-A-Look mirror. So will you be using it on your regular rides too?

Unbelievable story. You're just too much. You must type even when tired as fast as you ride, as it was a long story. Thanks for taking the time to tell it. I still can't get over it--that you used a mirror, that is. :-)
Oct 18, 2001 7:34 AM
I found that mirror about a week before, and used it on a couple of rides. It worked much better than the helmet mounted ones - stayed still, didn't vibrate, and was closer to the eye, giving a better field of vision. The clamp onto the glasses is very secure, and no worry about glue coming loose.

I used it because it makes me faster. Sounds stupid, right? But, you know that strip of pavement about 2 feet in from the right, where it's smooth? Riding there versus the rougher pavement or shoulder to the right is significantly faster. Plus, less junk on the road there, lessening the chances of a flat. The mirror allows you to ride there, but still move over when traffic approaches. This was especially important in this race with all the support vehicles doing leapfrog support. Also, I found I could see competition coming up from behind me, enabling me to decide to push harder or let up and let them pass (being polite). Usually the former.

It's a little geeky, but boy does it help. Lots of the racers were using them. I'll likely use it on most training rides, too. No one will sneak up and catch my wheel, then. :-)

re: So...Dog....arent we gonna hear about the misery..uh, I meanpeloton
Oct 17, 2001 6:32 PM
I'm still trying to get over the thought of puking up vile, pink ensure all over death valley, losing sight in one eye, and still wanting to keep racing. I'd be curled up on the roadside in the fetal position. I don't think I can call any of my rides 'epic' anymore in comparison.

Very impressive ride and story, Doug.
Oct 17, 2001 7:03 PM
Reaching that goal has to make you feel great,make those little adjustments and do it again next year,now you KNOW you can do it.
way to go Dog.... congrats NMbadabill
Oct 18, 2001 6:37 AM
here we go againJudasH
Oct 18, 2001 8:13 AM
this board is sooo predictable
If you mean...MikeC
Oct 18, 2001 8:55 AM
...that real cyclists appreciate real accomplishments to do with bikes and riding, then, yeah, I guess we are!