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Are European bikers REALLY tiny?(13 posts)

Are European bikers REALLY tiny?tarwheel
Oct 17, 2001 11:44 AM
Just ordered a pro-team jersey and I can't believe how small the sizes run. According to the sizing chart on the website, I would wear an XXXL jersey for a 44" chest, which is normally XL in American sizes. Are Europeans that much smaller than Americans? Since these jerseys run so small, why don't more catalogs stock larger sizes? Or are you supposed to wear the jerseys so tight that you have to grease yourself to put them on?
re: Are European bikers REALLY tiny?morey
Oct 17, 2001 11:48 AM
Europeans are smaller than Americans. One of the main topics in European conversation when they travel here is "are all americans so fat" or "are all americans so big"
maybe not a "main" topiccolker
Oct 17, 2001 1:13 PM
they must have other topics! i'm sure the english talk about the american weather.
Average TdF Rider wasunobtainium
Oct 17, 2001 12:10 PM
5'9" and 152 # as I recall. The tallest was 6'2" and shortest 5'3" . The lightest 115# and heaviest 198# if memory serves me right. Most serious racers wear their jersey almost skin tight
in my case ... skin tight is not a pretty sight (nm)tarwheel
Oct 17, 2001 12:13 PM
Heaviest was 198 lbs? There's hope! nmBrian C.
Oct 17, 2001 12:25 PM
Euro sizes are also "unisex"-nmfiltersweep
Oct 17, 2001 3:30 PM
Euro sizes are also "unisex"-nmBrit Racer
Oct 18, 2001 1:08 AM
As the name implies, I'm British so fairly well qualified to answer about Europeans (although wether Brits regard themselves as Europeans is a hot topic of debate...)

Most pro cyclist are pretty small around 6' or below and weigh next to nothing. There are a few exceptions (The biggest rider in the TdF this year was 6'5" and just under 200 lbs but he was nowhere in the mountains...

As for size of Europeans in general (eg not pro-cyclists), how long's a piece of string? Many people from Mediterrainian areas are quite small (very few over 6') whereas if you go towards the North (eg Holland or Scandinavian countries) you'll find a lot of very tall people.

I'm 6'5", 46" chest and I wear a size 6 cycle jersey which to me equates to a British XL but according to European sizing is something like XXL if not XXXL. My jerseys are close fitting as they're meant to be but not restrictive.

I think that sizing in general seems to be all over the shop anyway - American made casual clothes in XL now seem way too big for me (like wearing a tent...) and I almost always go for 'Large' now. I think, without meaning to cause any offence, that US sizes seem to be getting bigger to account for the general shift in average 'size' over the years as obesity is on the increase (same here but we're probably around 10 years behind the US on the obesity front - Great...)

The answer - just find what fits and ignore the label size...
Apart from some...muncher
Oct 18, 2001 4:41 AM
Was getting some motorcycle gear from a German shop - they have some wierd system where they use inches, but 10 more - i.e. my 46 chest is a German 56. Girlies stuff works in the normal way. I assumed that it was to make you feel more manly - sort of works for the chest sizes, but not so great on the waist ones I thought...
McDonald's catching up with the worldmickey-mac
Oct 18, 2001 4:53 AM
"that US sizes seem to be getting bigger to account for the general shift in average 'size' over the years as obesity is on the increase (same here but we're probably around 10 years behind the US on the obesity front - Great...)" This is an interesting statement that reminded me of the discussion in "Fast Food Nation" about the increase in obesity in the US with the rise of fast food and the fact that the trend has been exported to just about every part of the globe. Maybe those "European sizes" will be more in line with "US sizes" in another decade. :-(
Caught up nearly....muncher
Oct 18, 2001 4:57 AM
I read in one of the more reliable papers a short while ago that something like 30% of Children in the UK are now obease at the age of 10. I think obease was more than 20% above the upper end of their "proper" height/age range. Food for thought (mostly crisps and burgers)- 'cuse the pun...
actually sugarcyclopathic
Oct 18, 2001 10:23 AM
we consume annually 165lbs of purified sugar per capita (this is up from 3lbs a century ago)
actually sugarmorey
Oct 18, 2001 11:58 AM
In the 1500's the per capita consumption of sugar was 129 lbs. This was the whole known world!