|Rank the Tour bikes!||cordedduck|
Oct 12, 2001 9:09 PM
|I would like to know how you all would rank the bikes used in the 2001 Tour de France; from best to worst, or, from most desirable to least desirable.|
|re: Rank the Tour bikes!||ultegraracer|
Oct 13, 2001 4:08 AM
|ahh i want the postal bike.|
|Credit Agricole's LOOK. (nm)||Allen az|
Oct 13, 2001 12:24 PM
|Sign me up for a Telekom Pinarello Prince||Matt|
Oct 13, 2001 4:56 PM
|I will even ride the goofy pink color. As for the bottom...you can keep the GT the lotto team rode. Second on the list to have would be C-40 from mapei/rabbobank. Honestly, all the rides were just fine, this list is like spiltting hairs.|
|Sign me up for a Telekom Pinarello Prince||cordedduck|
Oct 13, 2001 10:40 PM
|Just curious, why would you put the GT at the bottom?|
|Sign me up for a Telekom Pinarello Prince||yeah right|
Oct 14, 2001 12:21 AM
|GT at the bottom, please no. Try AG2R's Decathalon's (who knows who makes 'em). And Cofidis, rides MBK's (I know that they are actually Cyfacs), but please would you ride in the tour on a Huffy?|
|GT is a huffy now is it not?||Matt|
Oct 14, 2001 6:53 AM
|PS...7 eleven used to ride Murray bikes as a pro team and in the tour. Do you think they went down to Walmart and buoght a red ten speed. No, they were custom made rigs by Serotta. So...maybe the bikes Cofidis are riding are just a little better than the average Cyfac whoever they are. You have to assume any run of the mill company isn't sending their stock frame to the top atheletes in the world. Do you honestly think they send LA the same OCLV you could get at Bob's Cycling and fitness. They don't even ride the same Mavic wheels consumers get. The Ksyriums they rode were the Ksyruim SL which weren't available retail in the states till 2002 model. Giants ONCE frame this year in the tour was the new TCR composite frame they just unvailed at Interbike. Look real close at the headtube shots of ONCE, and you will see the differnce.|
|GT is a huffy now is it not?||Allen az|
Oct 14, 2001 7:05 AM
|Lance DOES ride a stock OCLV. He mentioned it on Letterman after he won the tour.|
|they are made in the same factory...||Matt White|
Oct 14, 2001 3:12 PM
|They are not the same exactly. Postal bikes are made preseason, and have minor differences in design. First the odd sized riders get custom fit frames. Trek also makes lighter frames for LA and other climbers. Someone here posted once who works with Trek in the factory, and listed the differences(as much as he could). Someone who weighs their cereal for breakfast wouldn't ride a stock bike. It may be similar to a certain model, but it isn't identical.|
|NO, it isn't.||jtolleson|
Oct 14, 2001 12:00 PM
|Common misconception though, since Huffy had the inside track for most of the bankruptcy process.
The successful bidder at auction was Pacific Cycle and urban legends and rumors aside, they haven't yet announced their intentions are far as modifications to the lines or changes in market (ie., going the Walmart route with all lines v. the LBS route).
|NO, it isn't.||Flava|
Oct 15, 2001 7:42 AM
|GT, Schwinn, and Mongoose all fall under Pacific. GT will remain their 'high-end' ride and still be sold through the dealer network. The ZR alu frames are very nice - light (sub 3lbs for a 56cm), stiff, and comfy. Their Zaskar mtbs are awesome (as is the I-drive). Lotto was very successful on these 'Huffies'.
Schwinn will be the mid-range bike like - again, sold through dealers. Eventually there may be some models specifically made for retail distribution through Walmart etc. (bmx type bikes and such).
Mongoose - mass market distribution through Walmart. The titanium Mongoose bikes are made by Titanium Sports here in the US. You won't be seeing these in Walmart. Whether or not these will be distributed with Mongoose stickers remains to be seen.
|GT is a huffy now is it not?||yeah right|
Oct 14, 2001 6:22 PM
|Yes, I know this. Cyfac makes very nice bikes, that was part of my point. Did Serotta make the Murray's? Yes. My point: When they are all nice bikes, why get the one with the least prestigous moniker?
Yes, of course pro's get the newest equipment before we can buy it. Why do you think we buy it.
And the OCLV process, from what I understand, is not friendly to custom sizing. I'm guessing if they did make custom frames for lance, they'd make 'em available to the public so that lancephiles would pay $10000+ a frame in their size, "just like lance". Why else is hincapie's tt frame aluminium? Because they only make the carbon tt bike in a single top tube length, and adjust the seat tube length, which can't fit a guy who is 6'3". My .02
|Sign me up for a Telekom Pinarello Prince||CT1 Guy|
Oct 14, 2001 7:22 AM
|Decathlon's a major European chain of sports superstores (mainly French)- I think the frames come from Taiwan but are pretty good value. MBK are what used to be called Motobecane - a major French producer. Don't think they've anything to do with Cyfac - another French make.
Most of Pinarellos frames also come from Taiwan....
|USPS Trek OCLV. (nm)||DavidS|
Oct 13, 2001 8:10 PM
|Looks-Credit Agrical, Big Mat, or Kelme.(nm)||look271|
Oct 14, 2001 2:21 PM
|Kinda hard to disagree....||JohnG|
Oct 14, 2001 5:27 PM
|Do you know which of these teams (if any) are using Campy?? I didn't really pay attention to those details while watching the tour. Wish those OLN hammerheads paid more attention to the bikes.
KG 281 rocks here!
Oct 15, 2001 2:30 PM
|Big Mat uses Mavic Mektronics. Don't know about Kelme or CA.|
Oct 15, 2001 9:18 AM
|CSC Tiscali. They rode the KG 281 also, but had the barbecue finish and the HSC3 fork. I like them the best.|| |