|Entry level bikes?||Hazem|
Oct 11, 2001 1:55 PM
|I am interested in taking my tires out of the dirt once in a while and hopping from my MTB to a road bike. But, i am on a limited budget. I am looking closely at the Trek 1000 and giant OCR3. Any other ideas or comments on that? Thanks.
giant --> http://www.giantbicycles.com/us/bikes/030.000.000.asp?bikes=cataloguestep4&bikeid=10376
trek --> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2002/road/full_specs/1000_detail.html
|re: Entry level bikes?||Ted|
Oct 11, 2001 2:06 PM
|I have the OCR3 and it is a great first bike. I even did a little racing on it. I did graduate this year and am buying a new bike next year but only beacuse I enjoyed this one so much.
|re: Entry level bikes?||dsc|
Oct 11, 2001 2:08 PM
|Please consider buying used. I, too, only rode dirt for the last 10 yrs, but had wanted to begin training for centuries, so I started looking for a road bike. Road bikes generally don't take the beating that MTB's do, so buying used is a safe option. For $1200 I bought a '99 Lemond Zurich that the prior owner (LBS mgr.) had upgraded to full Dura Ace, Ouzo Pro carbon fork and Vector Pro wheelset. I love my new bike, and could not have gotten this much bike buying new.|
|re: Entry level bikes?||Bart S.|
Oct 11, 2001 3:07 PM
|Jamis Ventura - $799.00
Bianchi Brava - $750.00
Both decent entry level bikes.
Might get an end of season deal.
|re: Entry level bikes?||Elefantino|
Oct 11, 2001 3:16 PM
|For what you say you're going to use it for, any of the bikes mentioned in these posts will do. They're all either untuned aluminum or steel frames and will be fine for the club ride or benefit.
Shimano Sora, used in both the bikes you mention, is serviceable but of obviously lower quality than its more expensive siblings. Sort of like Shimano Alivio for MTB/touring bikes. It's not even Deore quality.
If you are more serious about your roading, I also suggest you look at a used bike with more long-term componentry. IMNSHO
|re: Entry level bikes?||Pavement Eater|
Oct 11, 2001 5:16 PM
|I bought a Giant ocr-3, for 375.00 used, and found it to be one hell of a deal. The bike handles well and is a great first bike. It shifts,rides and weighs the same as my friends specialized allez, but for about a grand less.|
|I would love a deal like that....||Hazem|
Oct 11, 2001 6:24 PM
|Where are good places to look for a used bike at that level? It seems like none of the LBS carry used. Thanks for the great advice already!|
|I would love a deal like that....||Pavement Eater|
Oct 13, 2001 1:18 PM
|I have a great bike shop in Jonesboro AR called Gearhead Outfitters, most of their clientele are of the wealthy and when one of them buy a bike and then his friend has to buy one the same or better by doing so he trades in his sometimes new bike for an upgrade. My Giant was basicly new when I got it. The former owner only had it for 2 months before he bought a 3500.00 bike. They have deals like this quite often, I have my eye on the owners 2001 trek TT bike that he wants me to buy, but 6000.00 for a bike is a bit tough for me. By the way Im 5-9 225lbs and the Giant fits me like a glove and is rock solid. Ive already dropped 25lbs in 2 months riding it and have completed 2 events rides which I couldnt even think of driving a year ago. Their website is www.gearheadoutfitters.com|
|re: Entry level bikes?||Trent in WA|
Oct 11, 2001 7:04 PM
|You might also consider the LeMond Nevada City, an excellent entry-level bike. At least I love mine.
|The problem with Sora...||Rich Clark|
Oct 12, 2001 7:38 AM
|...is worth mentioning, although you may decide it doesn't matter to you.
All current Shimano road groups are 9-speed... except Sora, which is 8-speed.
And the single most expensive component in a group (by far) are the levers, which determine how many gears you can shift in back.
Buying Sora, therefore, commits you to 8-speed cassettes, and really limits your upgrade potential (or at least makes it much more expensive). The next level up -- Tiagra -- is 9 speed and compatible with all the other 9-speed groups.
If you're buying an 8-speed bike, I agree with looking for a used one. A new 8-speed probably depreciates by 50% after the first ride. Personally I'd want to do whatever it took to get a bike equipped with a 9-speed group right from the outset.
|what's the problem with 8sp?||cyclopathic|
Oct 12, 2001 8:19 AM
|there're tons 8sp cass made both by Shimano and Sram.
Shimano XT 8sp 11-28 is plenty and work with road derailleurs
On a side note most of entry bikes not worth of upgrading. It is more economical to sell it and get another.
|Nothing if it's all you'll ever want||Rich Clark|
Oct 12, 2001 9:20 AM
|The point is simply that newbies don't always understand about compatibility among Shimano groups, and the importance (and cost) of levers. 8-speed levers limit your upgrade path, and it's a shame not to know that before you sink $5-600 into a bike.
I agree that replacing the whole bike is usually the best upgrade for this level of equipment -- which is why they depreciate so rapidly and can be very good buys as used bikes.
|he is not quite newbie||cyclopathic|
Oct 12, 2001 10:58 AM
|and every MTBer'd tell you 8sp is superior to 9
me? I wonder how obsolete 9sp would be when big S caughs up 10sp
|as one who has been there||filtersweep|
Oct 13, 2001 8:08 AM
|I owned an "entry level" bike for about a week after making a similar transition and was fortunate enough to be able to trade it back (at full price) and drop an extra grand on a better bike. I was very unhappy with the first bike.
A few observations (for what its worth) about the differences between road bikes and MTBs: All road bikes have the same parts, and you simply end up with better parts for more money. MTBs on the other hand- you pay extra for suspension (all around) as well as better components of course, but where the real expense comes in seem to be on items a cheaper bike simply doesn't have. The added weight and wider tires of mtn bikes "hide" some of the deficiancies of lower-end bikes as well as some of the advantages of high end bikes (unless you are off-road). What I am ultimately saying here is that on a road bike you genuinely will notice the difference between an alloy fork and a carbon fork (as an example), or if your tires are a bit out of true, or your bearings aren't smooth, etc... riding a mtn bike on the road, the tires pretty much take care of everything. Also people generally seem to ride longer on road bikes at any given ride (at least I do). Finally, I haven't touched my mtn bike since buying a road bike... or course your mileage may vary. If you might only ride 500 miles a season on a road bike, you should be fine with an entry level bike. While you don't know what you are getting yourself into, you may find you love it and wish you had something better.