Oct 11, 2001 8:24 AM
|Hey, i love pizza, i eat alot of it but how good is it for you? i know its not that bad because its got like cheese and tomato sauce and stuff like that which is good but is it really fattening and when should u eat it?|
|Cold & leftover for breakfast! Goes well with a hangover. nm||MB1|
Oct 11, 2001 8:26 AM
|re: Pizza||Bike Fool|
Oct 11, 2001 8:31 AM
|The cheese and most of the meats you put on it pegs the fat-grams into artery clogging range. I think you can eat pizza 24/7 hot or cold, but like anything else, if it tastes good, it's probably bad for you. Especially in large quantities. [homer simpson]Hmmmm, pizza, one of the four food groups[/homer simpson].|
Oct 11, 2001 8:56 AM
|Eat what you want. Ride hard, burn it off. Repeat.
Unless you are a pro, life is just too short not to enjoy food.
|Good lord...||Greg Taylor|
Oct 11, 2001 9:29 AM
|Eat it and don't worry about it. Yes, it's fattening, and no it really isn't that good for you. Forget the rationalizations about cheese and tomato sauce -- I got the same kind of lame rationalization from my wife this a.m. who justified eating a pecan sticky bun because the nuts "were a source of protein".|
|Pizza...food of the gods||ColnagoFE|
Oct 11, 2001 9:35 AM
|I was pretty much able to eat anything and not gain an ounce until I was 28...after that I have to watch it, but Pizza is definately something I can't do without. What other food (besides Chinese) can be delivered to your lazy butt in 30 minutes or less while you sit and watch cycling on OLN? Cheeze is probably the worst part of it...though mozzarella is not the worst cheese offender. You also have to watch the oils in the crust. If you wanna be healthy you can order it without cheeze. Ham or Canadian bacon is better than most of the other meat choices if you have to have meat. Less fat. Pizza is not health food though. LOTS of fat and calories, but it sure tastes good!|
|Pizza...food FOR the gods||guido|
Oct 11, 2001 10:04 AM
|A long time ago, I used to ride with a bunch of hammerheads every Tuesday night. We'd go for broke down Beach Drive in Rock Creek Park, D.C., do a loop around a hellacious hill, then race back up to the start, a 25 mile route, more or less.
Then we'd go pig-out on pizza. Fond memories! Hey, ya gotta replenish the depleated glycogen stores! Your body knows just what to do with a pizza after a really hard ride! You earned it.
|Rock Creek hammer rides...||Brooks|
Oct 11, 2001 11:25 AM
|Guido: I used to do that ride too. It's been at least 8 years since last time. It was getting way too big (40+)for riding during commute hours. Lots of angry motorists. I remember Marion Clignet sitting in (she's from Olney, MD although she rides for the French) and causing an accident that took down a bunch of riders. I used to go home and skip the pizza.|
|Rock Creek hammer rides...||guido|
Oct 11, 2001 12:15 PM
|Small world. I was pretty regular between 1985 and '87, and remember Marion Clignet, big pelotons, and angry motorists accustomed to using Rock Creek as their commuter route. At one point there was a RAAM rider in the group, frequently visitors from out of town. The ride attracted recreational cyclists wondering how long they could hang with serious racer types, most of whom were actually across the river in Virginia riding criteriums in a shopping center put on by a local consortium of bike shops and clubs. Larry Black, College Park bicycles, was still racing. Neil Sandler had just started Spokes Magazine and was riding a Marinoni. You could just ride along Beach Drive any weekend and find lots of people to ride with. It was a friendly, clubby, competitive scene, of all kinds of cyclist: elderly ladies on three speeds, every kind of recreational cyclist, and us fitness addicted hammerheads. Is all that still going on?|
Oct 11, 2001 2:33 PM
|I knew Larry (I lived near College Park, worked in Silver Spring) and Neil. I moved to the area in '87 moved out to Utah (Park City) in '96. Larry still has a training race at Greenbelt Park (I saw it on the College Park Bicycles website recently) which was good for all levels of race-interested types.
To answer the post below, the ride started in Garrett Park/Bethesda at Garrett Park and Beach and went down Rock Creek (Beach Dr) into DC. I just pulled out my old ADC map book...Go under Military and past the Park police HQ..go right on Broad Branch and right again on Ross for the climb. Ross drops down to Military where you can get back on to Beach and head back. For fun ride the other way on Ross (it's steeper). The other little kicker is just after Jones Mill Rd goes under the Beltway. Go straight up Stoneybrook instead of turning left onto Beach. This goes up past the Mormon temple (Surrender Dorothy!). Left on Kent down to Kensington Parkway (left) then right on Beach and back home.
Oct 11, 2001 7:36 PM
|The ride you describe is the same one we did to earn our pizza. Those feeling good would go up Stoneybrook past the Mormon temple (Yes, "free Dorothy!" We actually said that); those well into lactate deficit would turn left on Beach. Crazy times. We were all learning. I moved to the Tyler-Longview area, East Texas, in 1988, so we might have ridden together in '87. I guess Park City, UT has got nice flats and some big mountains nearby? The hills of East Texas are really fast twich, so everybody rides hard.|
|Pizza...food FOR the gods||thejerseydevil|
Oct 11, 2001 1:29 PM
|i ride rock creek pretty frequently on weekends. where is the hellacious hill at? thanks!|
|The hills in Rock Creek Park||guido|
Oct 11, 2001 3:12 PM
|Nice climbs are all along the sides of the valley created by Rock Creek. We'd go down Beach past the Ranger Station, loop right onto Blagden(?) Road, right onto Ridge Rd. which climbs with one switchback up the south face of a big hill, right onto Ross Drive, now on top of the hill, then down Ross, right on Morrow, left on Beach. Often we'd do it in reverse. Great heart pounding fun either way.
We also used to TT up Sugarloaf Mountain, way up in Montgomery County. That ride was about 90 miles round trip from the DC border.
|night before double metric, with nine beers, to bed late. nm||Js Haiku Shop|
Oct 11, 2001 9:37 AM
|And half a pack of smokes! ; ) (nm)||9WorCP|
Oct 11, 2001 11:11 AM
|Hit it! (nm)||mickey-mac|
Oct 11, 2001 3:14 PM
|Got the ladies of the eighties from here to White Castle NM||Js Haiku Shop|
Oct 12, 2001 4:54 AM
|forgot "200 miles to chicago and we're wearing shades" (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Oct 12, 2001 7:24 AM
Oct 11, 2001 10:30 AM
|If you're really interested, do some research on what kinds of fats are involved with the ingredients. Poly Uns? Sats? Check out oils in relation to fats. Furthermore, check out the differences between simple sugars and complex carbohydrates. From there, find some information on grains, refined grains, whole grains. This will dictate the type of pizza you will eat in the future. It is very easy (at least around here) to find fantastic pizza with multi grain relatively unrefined grain crust, grilled chicken, low fat cheese, fresh tomato, virgin olive oil (and not much of it).|
|Pizza v. Donuts||Lazy|
Oct 11, 2001 10:36 AM
|We should maybe do a study here. We can compare and contrast "The UltegraRacer Pizza Diet" and "The Hummah Hah Donut Diet".
DONUTS: Easier to carry in Jersey pocket, won't make your hands so greasy that you drop your water bottle, smaller investment
PIZZA: Won't leave you looking like you just snorted a line of cocaine, larger quantity of sources, good for throwing at that car that almost ran you off the road.
This could take a while.
|Donuts before Noon, Pizza after Noon -nm||hms|
Oct 11, 2001 4:11 PM
|re: All the calories are in the last slice, right?||Turtleherder|
Oct 11, 2001 11:07 AM
|This will sound wierd but if you are really interested in taking some of the calories out of the pizza, try this. Take a paper towel and blot off the grease from the top of the slice. I have read that you can remove almost half of the calories from fat by doing this.|
Oct 11, 2001 5:40 PM
|I say eat all the pizza you want. It is definitely one of my weaknesses. Don't feel guilty either, we do enough riding to counter balance any affect a pizza may have on our bodies. If you do feel guilty though just think of all those "fat porkers" that eat that way all the time and haven't done any exercise since they were in primary school. Their the same people that drive outrageously large cars and smoke in restaurants.