|Is there something better than cycling?||Woof the dog|
Oct 8, 2001 6:07 PM
|I sat down and thought hard and long about how much pleasure cycling provides - all the fancy equipment and fitness, all the money spent, all the people I have met and yet to meet. What is it that could rival this desire to pedal?
Well, it seems to me that an even more pleasurable thing to do is to fly - paraglide, skydive or even motor-paraglide. Surly, what you feel at 2000 feet above the ground must be a heck of a lot better than riding down some hill. My father is into this kind of stuff. Hope he doesn't break his old bones. There is certainly great risk involved, but from what I hear from him is that its better than riding a bike.
What ya thinkin'?
|re: Is there something better than cycling?||Tig|
Oct 8, 2001 6:43 PM
|Hmmmm, the first thing that comes to mind is sex! However, that should be a given. But like riding extremely well made and fit bikes, maybe everyone hasn't been lucky to have experienced the best! ;o)
Cycling must be a good second place. I keep coming back to riding. The only other activity/sport that brings me back again and again is surfing. I've skydived and done all kinds of fun stuff like skiing, but riding is still the best overall.
Oct 8, 2001 6:51 PM
|it is quite the thrill riding down a mountain in the sierras...
but then it is winter, no?
...sex is overrated for those who have it regularly...if you are a teenager, we understand, but true joys come from other endeavors in life (children, reached goals, helping someone change their life for the better, etc.)
|yes.. sex, eating and sleeping - not by that much tho||dupe|
Oct 8, 2001 7:03 PM
|anything where simplicity, truth and goodness is of essence is a beautiful thing.
on par with cycling i would have to say surfing and dancing. and where do i categorize meeting and making new friends, travel, helping people and oneself, art, literature, music, nature and its animals, the ability to appreciate other cultures and customs. oh, did i mention sex.
the only bad things are britney spears, christina aguilera, n-sync, backstreet boys and eminem (i have a deep empathy for the youth not being able to rebel as their parents listen to the same garbage - i was fortunate enough not to be thought of as from another planet by my parents.
AND, i truly beleive the root of all evil lies in them satanic mercury mountaineer ads during any cycling coverage on OLN.
seen more dawns than farmers.
|beg to differ, BRITNEY SPEARS is beautiful/hot||I Love Shimano|
Oct 8, 2001 7:08 PM
|oh man, she is hot|
|sure she looks allright - but so does my mail lady ;-)||dupe|
Oct 8, 2001 7:20 PM
|and i am certain my mail lady has more integrity and offers the world more good than britney .
but my usps princess Rosa doesnt have 350,000 websites devoted to her nor would she be able to buy several small countries whilst having nothing to say.
i would choose without hesitation to spend a night of bedroom tango with Martha Stewart; you make the best soup with and old pot. ;-)))))))))
Oct 9, 2001 4:44 AM
|Well if you say so. But can she climb? nm||MB1|
Oct 9, 2001 6:42 AM
|beg to differ, BRITNEY SPEARS is beautiful/hot||mr_spin|
Oct 9, 2001 1:10 PM
|She sure is. But Christina Aguilera can actually sing. She does old Etta James numbers like "At Last" that will make you cry.
And what about everybody's favorite Backstreet Boy "Howie?"
|do(u)g sloan is really into the backstreet boys. nm||Js Haiku Shop|
Oct 9, 2001 1:12 PM
|do(u)g sloan is really into the backstreet boys. nm||I Love Shimano|
Oct 9, 2001 4:42 PM
|no way mr_spin, Britney can sing too! She has got such a beutiful voice...I listen to her stuff while hammering on the trainer. Keeps me motivated! haha|
|Oops. I did it again||mr_spin|
Oct 10, 2001 7:12 AM
|I'm a little out of the demographic, so I've only heard a few Britney songs. I guess it's entirely possible that she could have an amazing voice. It's also possible that I am actually Backstreet Boy Howie.|
|what the heck are you talking about? don't know who they are nm||Dog|
Oct 9, 2001 7:35 PM
|...||Js Haiku Shop|
Oct 10, 2001 7:04 AM
|doug sloan teenage girl
crush on backstreet boy "howie"
pink bike, basket, bell
Oct 10, 2001 7:46 AM
|It would be funny if lots of us were not who the others think we are. For all we know, there are about 5 of us here, posting under 50 alias's each.
Wouldn't it be interesting if Gregg posted the IP's of all the handles, and see how many handles we think are associated with different people (much as Trollman/Thioderek exposed himself as) are really the same? You know, Gregg can figure out this stuff. (But, I suppose he could be one of the posters, too.)
Me, I'm always the same. I'll offend people under my own handle, not bother hiding behind different handles.
|Actually there are only 2 of us here.||MB1|
Oct 10, 2001 7:55 AM
|I'm just trying to keep your mind off of worrying about the 507.
Don't worry, it is only the last, next 1 that is hard.
Oct 10, 2001 7:07 AM
Oct 9, 2001 5:21 AM
|I should have said, "making love", not "sex". There is a world of difference!
Someone mentioned other great stuff. The love and interaction I have with my kids and family would have to be on the top of the list, without a doubt. I can live without cycling (MUCH lower quality of life though!), but I couldn't live without my wife and kids. Raising kids that are loving and give back to society is my purpose and gift to the world.
Oct 9, 2001 5:48 AM
|My kids and my wife. I would give up cycling in a heart beat for them. The joy and fulfillment they give are so far above anything else it's not even a contest. I'm getting all misty eyed just writing this, gotta go!|
|re: Is there something better than cycling?||Skip|
Oct 8, 2001 7:03 PM
|When you are a teenager, sex would be the standard, top answer. But as you get older and the hormones subside, other priorities and preferences take over.|
|A death in the pants?||nm|
Oct 9, 2001 5:09 AM
|Rowing?||I Love Shimano|
Oct 8, 2001 7:03 PM
|But buying cycling equipment is much more fun than buying rowing stuf....like anyone can afford their own boat.|
|re: Is there something better than cycling?||jacques|
Oct 8, 2001 7:19 PM
|I'm reading your post and thinking that the "great risk" you ascribe to aerial activities might not be that great at all. As a matter of fact, I'm guessing that riding a bicycle on public roads carries a much greater risk of death or serious injury than flying, or even sky-diving.
General aviation is carried on by more or less trained pilots, mechanics, instructors, students, etc. General automobile traffic is carried on by a terrifying mix of drivers: enthusiastic, attentive, indifferent, aggressive, bored, too old, almost blind, dead drunk, on drugs etc. etc.
Re sex: when that saddle-induced impotence issue was big some time ago, I thought to myself: what's the problem? I'd rather cycle than have sex . . .
|re: Is there something better than cycling?||Woof the dog|
Oct 9, 2001 1:26 AM
|Thought skydiving has the highest incidence of death, and I am pretty sure thats the case. We are not talking about flying a plane, we are talking about amature paragliding, crashing into cliff edges, hanging off of the trees, miscalculating the wind direction and landing speed. These can be quite more bone-breaking. Thats my take on it.
Sex? Who cares about sex, hehe? Well.....
|re: Is there something better than cycling?||azdave|
Oct 8, 2001 10:07 PM
|I have 500 skydiving jumps and a 150hp motorcycle that I take to the racetrack, but I enjoy bicycling more than either of those hobbies. There is something about tuning your own body and breaking your own limitations that keeps me interested. Being something of a techno geek, bicycling meets my need to tinker as well. It's an activity that can be an all out adrenaline hammer fest or a peaceful mind-clearing ride. The versatility of the sport is really great, because it can always accommodate my moods.|
Oct 8, 2001 11:46 PM
|Cycling has rhythm, but nothing like the endless dance on frozen water that is ice skating. On outdoor ice, of course.|
Oct 9, 2001 5:04 AM
|Ya, you got to love that sound the ice makes as you skate across it, much different than indoor ovals. I have to admit, speedskateing is a great cross training sport for cycling but I still love cycling more.|
|re: Is there something better than cycling?||Ray Sachs|
Oct 9, 2001 4:51 AM
|As much of a kick as flying must be, there's something about flying down a twisty descent and, when you're really riding well, feeling like you're floating up the tough hills, that no motorized activity can touch.
Oh yeah, I'm into my 40's now and sex is still pretty high on my list, but - unlike riding a bike - I can't seem to do it all day anymore :)
|Basketball - when I had knees||Mick|
Oct 9, 2001 5:07 AM
|I've always ridden a bike, since I was a wee lad. But as the years go on I get more serious about it and draw more pleasure from it.
I was asking myself the same question a few days ago while out riding alone. It seems that now I'm obsessed - which is fine - everyone needs a hobby.
But has there been anything else, besides the wife and kids, that gave me this much pleasure? Yes, basketball.
I played in until I was 40 and my knees started aching. I can still remember as if it were yesterday what it felt like to pick off a bad pass and run it down the court for a layup. The sheer exhilaration!
Here are the parts of cycling that feel that good: launching a breakaway that works, topping the crest of a hard hill at the front of the group, chasing down a break, and technical downhills at 40 mph.
But, to be honest, if I could still do it I'd be picking off bad passes and running in the layup to the cheer of the crowd.
|It's still officially cycling but||Spinchick|
Oct 9, 2001 5:28 AM
|even better than a long, solo "soul" ride or a mind-blowing hammer fest are the slow, mostly coasting rides I do around the neighborhood with the Lil Biker following on her little Magna w/ training wheels. She is becoming quite the little spinkid.|
Oct 9, 2001 6:28 AM
|I'm FINALLY moving the family out of these God forsaken apartments and into a good old fashoned, oak trees covering the road neighborhood. I'll feel more comfortable taking the kids for a ride around the area. I feel like I'm not doing my best job as a dad if I can't spend more time outside with the kids. It's not about the house, but about the home. We are at home in the old place, but it sure will feel better in a house with a yard, trees, birds and yes, even maintenance!|
|Better? Or equally good but different?||MB1|
Oct 9, 2001 5:29 AM
|It is hard to say that something you love is better or worse than something else that you love.
For me though water sports appeal (those that don't require an engine). Especially in clean tropical waters. Small craft sailing, body surfing, outrigger canoeing, kayaking, outrigger canoe surfing. Lets go now!!!
|I am with you . . . . all wet!||Turtleherder|
Oct 9, 2001 7:37 AM
|Iam with you on the water sports. Nothing is better than scuba diving off some unnamed reef in Los Roques or Roatan or Belize. I get so relaxed that I can just about fall asleep underwater. It's the only place that I forget that I have a job and have to work. The second is tropical sea kayaking. Exploring shallow reefs and sand bars gets to me everytime. Who's quote is it? "there's nothing better than messing around with boats."|
|Coach K & the Train||Len J|
Oct 9, 2001 5:41 AM
|Duke B Ball coach K got inducted into the Naismith B Ball Hall of fame on Friday night and during his acceptance speech used a great analogy that I thought of when I read your question.
He talked about the people in his life that were "On the train" with him. (He always talks about commitment by referring to a train. Either you are on the train or your not, you can't be partially on a moving train). He ended by saying that there is only one person that he wouldn't want to be on the train without, his wife Micky.
So, what does this have to do with your question? Well, I got thinking, what people or things would I always want "on my train"? & which could I live without & which couldn't I live without?
I would definatly want cycling "on the train". But, while my life wouldn't be as full, I could live without it. I couldn't live without my wife & kids.
As far as other things in the same catagory for me as cycling that I'd want "on the train"; books, music, sking, sailing, New friends, old friends, the power of one new good idea, the look in one of my kids eyes when they truly learn something important, exceeding what I thought my limits were, trying something new and failing at it, being truly alive in the moment.......
Must end the ramble.
Good, thought provoking topic.
Oct 9, 2001 6:10 AM
|Up in the mountains....3 feet of fresh un-tracked powder on top of a good base. WHOOO HOOOO winters coming!
I am an avid mountain rider and enjoy the good days snowmobiling more than cycling. Trying to stay in shape for snowmobiling is what got me into cycling. Snowmobiling can be a very physical whole body workout, especially in deep powder.
However, it didn't take too long to get fully hooked on cycling. It is the most consistantly enjoyable sport that I do. However, there are still those rare absolutely perfect days on the snow that just can't be beat.
I also very much enjoy XC skiing.
|maybe for someone else, not for me||Dog|
Oct 9, 2001 6:31 AM
|Can't think of anything I'd rather do (other than intergalactic travel). Everyone has to have their "thing." This is mine. Frankly, I'm sort glad it is not everyone's thing. That would be even more people beating me.
|What, all none of us?||MB1|
Oct 9, 2001 6:40 AM
|I suspect against all the folks here you will finish first in the 508-just by starting.
Are you thinking about doing RAAM?
|yes, but one step at a time||Dog|
Oct 9, 2001 6:52 AM
|I'll know much better after the 508. It's a qualifyer. To qualify for RAAM, you need to finish within 15% of the first non-previously RAAM qualified racer. The fastest non-qualified racers usually is around 33 hours, so that means around 38 hours tops. But, someone could be faster, lowering the qualifying time.
So, can't even think about it really, yet. Last thing I want to be thinking about puking my guts up at 450 miles is "how could I do this for 3,000 miles?"
|After the second day nothing changes.||MB1|
Oct 9, 2001 7:19 AM
|What hurts hurts. What works works. Or so I'm told.
I doubt very much that you will be puking your guts up at 450 miles or at any mile. I think you have prepared o.k.
Now try to keep the following out of your head during the ride.
That's the Boy Scout Marching song.
And if you are looking for adventure of a new a different kind.
And you meet a Girl Scout who is similarly inclined.
Don't be frightened, don't be flustered, don't be scared!
|thanks, ... and 508 webcast||Dog|
Oct 9, 2001 7:29 AM
|That's far too complicated for there to be any chance of it being on my mind. Thoughts will likely be limited to "eat, drink, pedal, stay low, don't hit that rock, stay on road, my butt hurts, am I going uphill or downhill, damn that wind..."
Thanks for the thoughts.
BTW, the 508 "live" webcast will be here: http://www.the508.com/web2001/index.html
|thanks, ... and 508 webcast||DINOSAUR|
Oct 9, 2001 7:47 AM
|Good luck......I added this site onto my favorite section. I'll be checking on your progress.
Ever spot Roy's when treking through downtown Amboy?
Oct 9, 2001 7:52 AM
|Amboy almost wasn't. I don't recall anything specificly, except a post office and a couple of buildings, as well as the usual lone trailers out in the desert. Why do places like that even exist? I'll watch for Roy's going through on the bike. I was probably going to fast in the car to see :-)
There is a whole lot of nothin out there.
Oct 9, 2001 8:30 AM
|If you blinked your eyes you probably missed it....
For the life of me I don't know why I am fascinated by this place, it's a dump to say the least. It has a lot of history. It was a poplar spot until in was bypassed my I-40 in the early 70's.
|they have a website... and they show this?||Dog|
Oct 9, 2001 3:47 PM
|Can't believe they have a website, and show this. Do they want people to stay away?|
|they have a website... and they show this?||DINOSAUR|
Oct 9, 2001 7:32 PM
|People who live in the desert march to a different drummer.
I'd say they could give a rat's behind if people came or went (seriously).....
|damnit, do(u)g, i want to do that ride when i grow up. nm||Js Haiku Shop|
Oct 9, 2001 12:25 PM
|Check the average age of the rookies, you have lots of time. nm||MB1|
Oct 9, 2001 1:19 PM
|just what i was thinking...||Js Haiku Shop|
Oct 9, 2001 1:22 PM
|won't be able to train or travel that much 'til i'm older, anyhow. hopefully life will accommodate when the time draws closer. i'm figuring 'round 2018-2020...seriously! i'll be 48-50 (ouch). if i'm not DEED by then, we'll see.
depressing, ain't it?
Oct 9, 2001 8:21 AM
|Be prepared, that's the Boy Scout's marching song
Be prepared, as through life you march along
Be prepared to hold your liquor pretty well
Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell
Be prepared to hide that pack of cigarettes
Don't make book if you cannot cover bets
Keep those reefers hidden where you're sure
That it will not be found
And be careful not to smoke them
When the scoutmaster's around
For he only will insist that it be shared
Be prepared, that's the Boy Scouts' solemn creed
Be prepared, and be clean in word and deed
Don't solicit for your sister, that's not nice
Unless you get a good percentage of her price
Be prepared, and be careful not to do
Your good deeds when there's no one watching you
If you're looking for adventure of a new and different kind
And you come across a Girl Scout who is similarly inclined
Don't be nervous, don't be flustered, don't be scared
Tom Lehrer - 1960s or thereabouts
I lived a twisted childhood
|You got it all, and a better memory than I. FOF. nm||MB1|
Oct 9, 2001 8:28 AM
|It's all good.||grzy|
Oct 9, 2001 8:29 AM
|A lot depends on the season and the type of mood I'm in. Some random things that are as good as biking: |
Flying military jets off a carrier
Skiing steep and deep pow-pow
Wave sailing mast high grinding surf on a 4.7
Winning a boat race
Doing a triathlon
Working with good tools
Deep woods twisty MTB single track in Santa Cruz
Even better - spending time doing any of the above with people you love.
It all drives back to the old saying "The best things in life aren't things."
|yep. beer. nm||Js Haiku Shop|
Oct 9, 2001 10:44 AM
|Waist deep powder, Vail back bowls, snowboard, on a weekday||js5280|
Oct 9, 2001 2:07 PM
|Ahhhhh, the life of unemployment can be a good life. This was the day after the Superbowl last year. I had riden hard the previous 3 days but still shut the lifts down that day, it was so good. Sorry, as much as I love cycling, this was better.
Of course sex with a great partner is better than that. Sex with a so-so partner, probably about the same as an average bike ride. If a women is going to keep me off my bike, she's got to keep up with the competition. ;-)