|Winter undershirts: CoolMax or polypropylene?||nigel|
Oct 8, 2001 12:37 PM
|Experiences with either or both? Comparisions/contrasts?
PerformanceBike says that polypro has the highest moisture-transfer rate of any material; they make it out to be the wonder material.
Since I sweat a lot--even in winter--I need something that will move perspiration away from my body FAST so that I don't "chill out" too soon.
Thanks boys and girls,
|re: Winter undershirts: CoolMax or polypropylene?||bikedodger|
Oct 8, 2001 12:44 PM
|I've used both at one time or another and when I'm wearing them, I could not tell you which one I am wearing. The difference that I have noticed is that the polypro seems to smell worse quicker and can 'melt' in the dryer at a high heat. I hang dry both as they dry really quickly.
Either one is a great improvement over cotton for moisture management.
|Depends on temperature and conditions...||Cima Coppi|
Oct 8, 2001 12:46 PM
|From my experience, both do a good job of moisture wicking (I think Cool-Max does a better job), but the biggest difference is the thickness of the material. Polypro undershirts are thicker than Cool-Max, thus will keep you warmer when it's really cold or windy. Its not a bad idea to have both on hand, and use them in different conditions.
|Not Much Difference||jtolleson|
Oct 8, 2001 1:00 PM
|They are two competitors without much difference, in a sense. Polypro is a generic reference to a polyester based microfiber, CoolMax is a trademarked version that I think is a little softer to the touch. The wicking properties of both are too similar to distinguish in my experience. I'd get whatever's on sale.|
Oct 8, 2001 1:17 PM
|I use 3 t-shirts that were generic coolmax on sale. They work great when it's not too cold (40+). When it gets colder, I have 2 long-sleeved T's made from wick-tec, a type of polypro. They are nice and soft and do a good job of keeping me dry, + they were cheap! You can sometimes get good deals on this typer of winter wear @ http://www.sierratradingpost.com. That's where I got the longsleeved t's.|
|re: Winter undershirts: CoolMax or polypropylene?||metty108|
Oct 8, 2001 1:26 PM
Perhaps the most useful item of clothing I own is
a polyester long sleeve turtle neck shirt made by Gill
(its an English company) You can wear it under a jersey
in summer on cool evenings and not be too hot.And I wore it
last winter under a long sleeved jersey with a windstopper
front on a quiet icy day, and was pretty warm.
|You Can Get This Stuff Very Cheaply....||Greg Taylor|
Oct 8, 2001 3:52 PM
|...in the hunting and fishing section at any Walmart. I use a long sleeve poly tee shirt (really thick, U.S. Army cold weather specification) that I picked up for less than $10. Wicks well, and if doubled up with some wind protection (like a vest or jacket) its comfortable down into the teens.|
|Anyone ever use silk undies like the ones||Live Steam|
Oct 8, 2001 4:18 PM
|used for skiing? I have a few pairs and wear them on very cool - cold days. They seem to wick persperation well and have excellent heat retention. They are also very thin and don't inhibit movement.|
|Yes I have and they do keep you warm. A little too||Spinchick|
Oct 8, 2001 5:37 PM
|warm for me though. Even though silk does have decent wicking properties, I found myself somewhat overheated while wearing silk while cross-country skiing. I haven't worn them on any rides for that reason. If you're not prone to overheating easily they are probably good for cycling.|
|I love polypropylene, but love stinks ...||Elefantino|
Oct 8, 2001 4:48 PM
|The odor-retaining quality of polypro cannot be overstated. It really reeks (although this is perhaps personal chemistry at work, too) but it also really does the job. I have a couple of polypros and one CM, which I only use as a backup if the stinkypros haven't been washed. There's not much difference, but I just like the feel of the polypro better.|
|I rinse my Jersey/Shorts out...||jagiger|
Oct 8, 2001 7:44 PM
|I use a few drops anit-bacterial soap in a buck of water (1/3 full) to rinse my stuff out after rides. Keeps the rash away & smells fresher.|
|I shower with them on after rides. Wife says ...||Elefantino|
Oct 9, 2001 7:32 PM
|the walk from the garage to the shower is hell.|
|So, in summary...||nigel|
Oct 8, 2001 9:00 PM
|It seems that both CoolMax and polypro wick nicely; polypro's a bit thicker (possibly warmer), but it--being polyester--really holds the stink in (I have a thin polyester undershirt which I'd like to replace for just this reason--P.U.!!).
My final question: is CoolMax warm enough. I have a really warm jersey which I wear a lot in the wintertime (ironically, it's polypro, but it doesn't tend to stink), and I'd be all good with a warm, wicking, breathable undershirt except for the coldest days here in NYC. I suppose I'll try a long-sleeve CoolMax undershirt to see if it keeps me warm enough.
Thanks much to all who responded, and stay warm (but not stinky) out there,
|Don't forget wool||Ray Sachs|
Oct 9, 2001 4:59 AM
|I can't believe nobody mentioned the miracle fabric. As comfortable and warmer than polypro, wicks as well as either, and IT DOESN'T STINK. You can go into a coffee shop during the ride and not get chased out. For winter rides, I always wear a long sleeve wool undershirt under whatever number of jersey / sweater / windbreaker layers I need. And in the cool spring and fall months, I wear a short sleeve wool t-shirt under my jersey. And again, it doesn't stink - I can usually wear wool stuff 4 or 5 times between washing before my wife or daughters start looking at me funny.
|4 or 5 times between washings? Yikes!!!!!!||Live Steam|
Oct 10, 2001 12:46 PM
|Nothing personal, but I don't think I'd want to be pace lining behind you for too long :-)|
|re: Winter undershirts: CoolMax or polypropylene?||metty108|
Oct 9, 2001 1:06 PM
|As I mentioned in my earlier reply that I use a top
by a company called Gill, well I found there website
http://www.douglasgill.com/ . Check out the base layer
section, the actual top I have is in the UK part of the
site, its the blue/grey one. It is a very good product
both in cooler summers and winter, and It does not smell.