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Awesome Virenque(7 posts)

Awesome VirenqueVortex
Oct 7, 2001 8:17 AM
Richard Virenque made the race of his life today.
Allez Richard!JamesT.Kirk
Oct 7, 2001 11:10 AM
Cool, glad to see him make a comeback... Hope he stays clean.

here's the cyclingnews write up:

OLN will be showing Paris - Tours:

2001 Paris Tours
8:00 PM ET/PT
Allez Richard!madbadger
Oct 7, 2001 1:07 PM
Watched this live on Eurosport.....big respect to "Dudu" as the French call Jacky Durand. Any guy who can go 6&1/2 hours head to wind like that on a foul northern european autumn day with the knowledge he's towing a climber to the last few cotes where he'll be dropped inevitably, is a true hero.

Having said that I could hardly bear to watch the attacks fire off the front after Virenque, I just wanted the guy to get there "tout seul".

I've never been a big fan of Virenque, even before the EPO scandals, always seemed to pose to the camera & climb awkwardly in too high a gear. BUT today I think he came of age, all the doubt & humiliation exorcised by the huge courage he showed in suffering so long with his compatriot and then crippling himself in the last few kms, just watch that TV coverage of him climbing & killing himself down the final avenue in Tours. Hardly a race for a grimpeur to win!
One look at his face as he crossed the line & anyone could see what it must have meant to him. He's also the housewives favourite in France, the crowd were really going wild. Just wish I could lipread French to know what he was saying as he crossed the line.
Allez Richard!Jon
Oct 7, 2001 2:55 PM
What are the limits to a human's capacity to suffer? A truly heroic ride. One for each of us to remember
whenever we start to mentally whimper. Is this a great sport or what?!!
The guy's an admitted drug user. . .ACH
Oct 8, 2001 7:20 AM
and shouldn't even be riding professionally in my opinion. I say ban him for life.
It's not the drugs so much as the lies...mr_spin
Oct 8, 2001 7:33 AM
While his teammates own up to what they did, he steadfastly denies it all, and gets to ride the Tour, where he even wins a stage. The whole backstabbing nature of is what pisses me off. Hey guys, since you're not doing anything while you serve your suspensions, make sure you watch me race the Tour! Then, he only comes clean when they put him under oath.

What's sad is that look at him now. In theory he's clean, and he's doing very well. Just like Zulle, who was 2nd in the Tour on EPO, and 2nd in the Tour without EPO. It makes you wonder what the point of doing EPO was...
That's the thing.....Blue 'Goose
Oct 8, 2001 12:44 PM
Everyone wants the quick fix, the thing that will push
them over the edge in terms of performance.

Musicians want a little pill that will make them a virtuoso,
cyclists want the magic pill that will make them Lance,
Physicists wrack their brains and want to be Stephen Hawking. Everyone wants to be a perfect genius, athlete,
artist, musician, whatever.

Not everyone can be the best at what they do, it's just
life - sometimes you have to accept you're not going to
be as good as the best. Some do whatever they can to
bypass the truth.

What it comes down to is that only hard work and persistance
separate people like me from people who win races.

I'm just an ordinary guy who likes to ride who gets a
little obsessed at times.

The actual guys who race without doping and win are a select
few who have a certain standard that many shake their heads
in amazement over.

I think some of those who doped now wish they never did,
because deep down in order to get better you just need
willpower and the ability to ignore pain - not drugs or
whatnot. And you need training. And the right genes.

And I think they know that now.

Problem is, no matter what some of these guys win there
will always be the doubters, the naysayers and those that
go "oh, that guy doped, is his win clean?"

And the riders have to live with that.

A hard road