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Attn: NoCal roadies(19 posts)

Attn: NoCal roadiescioccman
Oct 5, 2001 10:16 AM
Anyone interested in getting together with a visitor to ride Sun, Mon and/or Tues?
re: Attn: NoCal roadies - Addendumcioccman
Oct 5, 2001 10:30 AM
I'll be rollin' out of the Santa Cruz/Capitola area each day while up there on vacation.
Oh, that's different!grzy
Oct 5, 2001 10:46 AM
So much good riding in this area - such great weather. Pretty foggy in the mornings lately, but not brutal. You owe it to yourself to climb up Old San Jose Rd. (or Mtn. Charlie out of Scotts Valley), head south on Summit then on to Highland, then *blast* down Eureka Canyon into Corrolitos. Totally awesome home made sausage in about 40 varieties await. If the spirit moves you head over Hazel Dell then up Mt. Madona and descend the way you came. Don't take the dirt road back along the ridege unless 11 miles and 2,000' of climbing on a *private* dirt road (where you're not welcome) has some appeal. Don't come down 152 unless you like to live dangerously.

Other routes that are highly reccomended is heading up the San Lorenzo Valley way (stay off Hwy 9 as much as posssible) then up and over one of our "little bumps" (Felton-Empire/Jamison/Alba) then onto Pine Flat either directly or via Ice Cream Grade, make sure to hit the bonus loop from the very end of Boony Doon Rd. then blast down to the coast. head north about 2 miles for lunch in Davenport then rip down the coast back to town. Another option is China grade and the 236 loop through Big Basin.

Also, realize that the annaul fireworks in Santa Cruz is going to be held on Sunday night - the 4th of July got too crazy so we wait for the tourists to go away. Anywhere along the water is good, but closer towards the boardwalk is best. Biking makes it easy to get in and out and avoid the traffic.
Oh, that's different!cioccman
Oct 5, 2001 11:04 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. If you'd like to join in at all, let me know!'s cold outsidemr_spin
Oct 5, 2001 11:50 AM
It is COLD today in the valley. Santa Cruz must be even colder. It's unusual this time of year, so bring some warm clothes just in case.

I would hook up with you, but I already have other plans. But reading grzy's post, it occurred to me that he is trying to kill you! Just so you aren't surprised, the following are tough climbs:

  • Mountain Charlie Road
  • Felton-Empire
  • Jamison (oh god, the pain...)
  • Alba
  • Boony Doon Road (from the ocean side)
  • China Grade

Unless you are a climber or have decent climbing skills or are looking for a challenge, some of these roads are likely to destroy your will to live. The worst are Jamison, Alba, and China Grade. The rest have hard sections.

Note: I'm not saying don't do these--just be prepared if you do. In fact, Felton-Empire is a nice little climb through the redwoods, and Mountain Charlie is a very cool climb. And one climb not mentioned is Zayante Road. Easier climbs are Old San Jose, Eureka Canyon, Hazel Dell.

I would highly recommend riding up Highway 9 from Santa Cruz to Felton. Most of it goes through a stunning section of Redwoods known as Henry Cowell Redwoods State Park. From Felton you can take Zayante (west) or Felton Empire (east) and make your way back to Santa Cruz.

One of the gateways to great riding is Branciforte, right out of downtown Santa Cruz. You can take Granite Creek or Glen Canyon into Scotts Valley, then make your way over to Graham Hill (via Lockinvar?) for some screaming downhill into Felton. Stay off Mt. Hermon road out of Scotts Valley--it's terrible and full of sand.

Get the Krebs map. All these roads are on it.'s cold outsidecioccman
Oct 5, 2001 12:16 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. I've heard it's cold there. Where I'm from, I've never even used my Izumi windbreaker jacket. I guess I'll break it in. Hopefully arm warmers and leg warmers are enough. It's all I need around here and all I've got! Goin' Kami.

Branciforte, is that the road to Delaveaga?

Thanks again.'s cold outsidemr_spin
Oct 5, 2001 12:35 PM
Arm warmers and a vest should be enough. It usually warms up mid-morning. Branciforte is one of the roads to Delaveaga, although I had to look up Delaveaga, not being a golfer!

By the way, if you'll have a car, consider driving north up Highway 1, at least to Pescadero. The coast line is spectacular between Bonny Doon and Pescadero. Then you can turn inland, go up Pescadero road (past the Flamingo house!) and Alpine Road to Skyline, then take Skyline (which turns into Summit) all the way back to Highway 17, which will take you back to Santa Cruz. You can ride it, too. I've done it the other direction.'s cold outside, addendumcioccman
Oct 5, 2001 12:27 PM
I do plenty of 5000 foot elevation climbs which obviously have more total climbing due to the ups and downs. Many of us continue the Angeles Crest ride all the way to Redbox, probably adding 2000 more feet of total climbing.

Never done it in less than 85 degrees. Might be refreshing.

I Should be A-OK.
All Good Info!grzy
Oct 5, 2001 4:02 PM
Alba and Jamison are the two killer hills. Boony Doon is hatefull in the afternoon since it's so exposed to the sun - you'll literally melt if not careful. Dropping it is a hoot and you can hit 50 mph w/out too much trouble. Zayantee kind of sucks you in: starts off mild then gets steeper and steeper to about 12% near the top.

The cut over from Mt. Hermon Rd. to Graham Hill is Lockwood Rd. Staying off Mt. H. is a good idea right now - they're repaving and it's a bit of a mess on a bike. Another way over is to take Sims from La Madrona Rd. after coming up Glen Canyon Rd. The Highland Games (Scottish) is going on in Ben Lomond this weekend so Hwy 9 might be a bit uglier than usual.
All Good Info!cioccman
Oct 5, 2001 4:08 PM
Too bad none of you but Roxy can join in at all. Oh well. I'm going to bite off lots this first trip there with the rig.

Thank you all.
Oct 5, 2001 6:10 PM
All these roads bring back fond memories. I was assigned to the Santa Cruz CHP Office between 1979-1986. I lived on the other side of the hill in San Jose. I seldom rode my bike in Santa Cruz country as I was doing a lot of running during that period.

I have to admit that Santa Cruz is a wonderful place to live, and to ride.

Does anyone remember "The Valley Surprise"?

As a side note, I was married in Santa Cruz in 1966.

I'm getting home sick....
Oct 8, 2001 7:51 AM
Time for a visit!

The Valley Surprise is still here - just as dangerous as ever. Once came around that corner at night only to find a car upside down on it's roof and a double trailer gasoline truck stopped in my lane. There was no way I could stop in time (the van is a pig), but I knew the left lane was clear and a slide the van over and missed the whole thing. It was a very quite ride home after that. Never let your guard down on Hwy 17.
Oct 8, 2001 8:14 AM
I worked Hwy 17 a lot, both sides of the hill, Santa Cruz and Santa Clara County. I must have worked a zillion wrecks at the Valley Surprise. When it rained I used to park underneath the Summit Rd overcross hoping to slow traffic down. The Summit Inn (now as you know a Chinese Restaurant) was our favorite coffee shop for breaks and writing reports. When I commuted to the CHP office in Aptos sometimes I drove Summit Rd and San Jose-Soquel Rd. My two son's still live in San Jose and they do a lot of body surfing over in Santa Cruz.
Yep, time to visit, the old timers meet at Tiny's Restaurant on the third Thursday of each month. Maybe December would be a good time as the weather is so great. If you live in Santa Cruz you are lucky.
My family also lived in Felton for a short time after they relocated from New York state in the late 40's.
I can remember when Hwy 17 wasn't there and Hwy 9 was the way into Santa Cruz.
Gad this stuff makes me sound old.

Nice place
Just when I get over missing Santa Cruz... (nm)cory
Oct 5, 2001 4:36 PM
Oct 5, 2001 10:32 AM
What does *she* look like? :-)

OK - sorry for the totally sexist post, but you gotta give people more to go on. Route/distance/area/pace/etc. My wife and I've got no problem picking up strays in our travels. In fact, some would be tempted to call us strays since we go all over the place and aren't always sure where we're headed. ;-) Ultimately we've got a nice "fun filled" weekend planned painting the house - I waited a whole year but the stoopid thing wouldn't paint itself ;-(
re: Attn: NoCal roadiescioccman
Oct 5, 2001 10:39 AM
I'm up for a long or a short, fast or relatively fast. I don't know any of the rides there, so, I need some guidance. Basically, unless any of you guys have some rides that you'd like to enlighten me with, I'll do the Sprockets ride on Sunday, do my own thing down Freedom, Larkin Valley, etc. on Monday, as I've been advised and then do a lunch time ride on Tuesday with an Aptoser. This ride yet to be determined and might be in addition to a Tuesday morning ride yet to be determined. Let me know!
hey grzy...Roxy
Oct 5, 2001 10:45 AM
I'm the "Aptoser"...actually a PG'er that commutes here daily.
I think you asked for my e-mail a while back...

Maybe we can do a foursome in the future. I'd love to check out the roads in your neck of the woods...cement, whatever.

Have a great weekend!
PG as in Pacific Grove?? nmBooner
Oct 5, 2001 3:14 PM
yup (nm)Roxy
Oct 8, 2001 7:32 AM