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Gonna try to stop laughing long enought to ask a fixte quest(15 posts)

Gonna try to stop laughing long enought to ask a fixte questSpinchick
Oct 5, 2001 9:47 AM
ion. My LBS guy has a hub from an old track bike he's willing to give me. It's a 20, which means I'll have to go bigger up front than I had planned. He's also willing to show me how to rebuild the wheel. Am I biting off more than I can chew here? Sheldon Brown made it sound so easy. I just thought it would be cool to actually have a bike that I rebuilt myself. (Given that I am a total newbie to bicycle maintenance). Is there a "Bicycle Maintenance for Dummies" yet?
What is the worst that can happen?MB1
Oct 5, 2001 9:51 AM
If you have been checking out Sheldon (don't you just love those hats?) you will have a very good idea of how to do it.

Make sure you are clipped or strapped in so you have some control. Nothing wrong with starting in a very easy gear either.

BTW what/which were you laughing about?
The worst that can happen is that I keep finding bikesSpinchick
Oct 5, 2001 9:57 AM
in the trash. And then I learn how to rebuild and work on them. And then find more bikes in the trash and keep working on them and I eventually move into the garage and never see my family and well, get the picture?

I first laughed at the Miss M post, then Haiku's "omg, you mean this isn't the real world" and then nearly fell on the floor laughing at the Ishmael's zit post.

PS What do you think I should use up front with a 20 in the back - remember, not many hills around here.
I got cher 52 right here baby! You dumpster diver you.MB1
Oct 5, 2001 10:06 AM
52X20 is about the same as the 42X16 I am running. No point in worrying too much about the exact gear ratios you are using until you have done it for a while.

The main idea is to use a fairly easy gear and work on your spin. Miss M took to it like a fish to water.
Can I use the 52 (I think one is a 52) that's on it now?Spinchick
Oct 5, 2001 10:10 AM
Do they come apart? Is this a dumb question? (I don't really care if it is - I still need an answer).

I really can't wait to meet Miss M. I'm gonna like this chick. (Will she mind being called a chick?)
Good cranks have replaceable chainrings. Bikes found in theMB1
Oct 5, 2001 10:22 AM
trash probably don't. The important thing is chainline. Your cog has to EXACTLY line up with the chainring or the chain will likely come off. A very bad thing on a fixed gear bike.

To line them up you usually have to use the inside chainring. However with your makeshift setup it may be possible to use the outer chainring by changing the spacing of the rear hub. Or maybe you can move your chainrings around. Chainline is far more important then worrying about which gear you are starting with.

Re: Miss M. Some day she is going to find out about how many people know something about her. I'll of course blame it on Humma. She likes smart people and intelligent non-bicycle related conversation. Doesn't really care much about bikes-she only likes to ride them. To meet her off the bike you would never have any idea how much she rides or how strong she is. On the other hand she has no objection to Mexican food and a Cervesa or 2 with friends after a ride and shower.

As far as calling her a chick? Takes a braver man than I to try that.
stop before it's too late!!!!Debby
Oct 6, 2001 3:44 PM
Just kidding....well, mostly, ha ha - you should see my basement!

I used to overhaul my own bikes when I was in high school and for a couple years after. After I got busy with school, job, and then kids, I gave up my cycling for WAY too long. My kids are older now, and last year I bought a new road bike. I still had my one old road bike, but knew that I'd gotten rusty as far as maintenance/ repairs. So.... last year I went to the Goodwill and invested a whole $10 on a Schwinn Voyageur 12 speed and another whopping $10 for an antique aluminum Trek 2000 12 speed. I used these two victims to 'relearn' how to overhaul the hubs, headset, and bottom bracket and how to do other maintenance and repair.

That was just the beginning of the disease...I seem to keep finding these bikes....the crusty looking old early '70's Raleigh Competition for $12 (Campy hubs, dura ace brakes, shimano crane derailleur....etc), the Paramounts that keep begging me to buy them,the OLD steel Trek frameset that was begging to be built up with the parts I just stripped from the poor old Trek 2000, the pathetic bikes that I strip parts off and I could go on and on...get out while you can!!!

Seriously though, you'll love it! I know a lot of people think it's wierd for women to work on bikes, but it's fun!!! I still have my old greasy paged copy of Richard's Bicycle Book from high school, and I've bought a few more, plus lots of new tools over the last year.

The only thing is that working on these old bikes is really different from the current technology. My 'good' bike has Ultegra 9 speed (cartridge bb, splined; threadless headset, etc).

Have fun!

Debby
You are too cool! Where are you from?Spinchick
Oct 7, 2001 5:01 AM
And are you married? If so, what's hubby think of your "addiction?" My husband thinks it's pretty cool for the most part (especially when I have to ask him for help), but I swear some days he looks at me like I've lost my mind.
Understanding Hubby!Debby
Oct 7, 2001 5:39 AM
Hubby is very supportive of my addiction! He doesn't care how many bikes are in the basement or that my favorite Paramount sometimes sits in the bedroom or dining room. He's always been very supportive of my
running and now my return to cycling. He doesn't like to ride, but is always offering to be my sag
wagon or take me to any race (running). Yesterday we took a nice ride (his suggestion) to PA Dutch
country (only an hour away) to check out a neat bike shop. What a great guy!
re: Gonna try to stop laughing long enought to ask a fixte questgrzy
Oct 5, 2001 9:54 AM
Well Zinn is prettty good as are some of the other books. As long as you've got someone willing to show you things just go ahead and dive right in. The risk and money is low and you'll really learn a lot. You can only get so much from a book - then it's time to get your hands dirty. Good hadn soap and rubber gloves will keep you from getting "mechanic hands." Shed that whole idea that gals don't mess with gears - we've got a friend that used to race dragsters and rebuilt the motor on her jetski. You'll find that you can get a tremendous amount of satisfaction from building things up yourself - to me it's a form of therapy.
Thankfully I never had the idea that gals don't mess withSpinchick
Oct 5, 2001 10:02 AM
gears! I love projects like this and totally agree about the therapy part. I think I need to have a book around, but you're right I need to just start tinkering. I've already taken the 12-speed apart.
Do it...DINOSAUR
Oct 5, 2001 10:07 AM
A gal that knows how to build wheels? I might loan you my Superman outfit, hmmmm or would that be Superwoman? The only way you learn anything is by getting your hands dirty and making a couple of mistakes along the way. I never mastered wheel building, I'd jump at the chance..
Do it....and you probably aren't stuck with the 20 cog out back.Greg Taylor
Oct 5, 2001 10:18 AM
Do it and have fun. Don't angst about the 20 tooth cog in back...you can swap it out. Third Hand and others carry a decent selection of cogs.
Use an old non Freehub.vanzutas
Oct 5, 2001 10:24 AM
If you want to build a wheel from scratch it will cost you some money and time. but building the wheel might be fun, I think it is a pain in the arse.

For my fixte I just used an old wheel with a 6 speed freewheel. all you have to do is take off the freewheel, put on a track sprocket then an old BB lock ring. it works great and it is cheap and easy. the only problem is that you will need to put the chainring on the inside to help keep the chain straight. I actually made some spacers out of washers to get the chainring even farther to the inside. this yields about a milimeter of clearance between the chanring and chainstay but it is enough for me. good luck

Adam
Go for it......Len J
Oct 5, 2001 10:56 AM
I'm doing the wheelbuilding thing this winter.

My LBS is a wheelmaking machine. I struck a deal with him that I would pay him for his time if he guided me to make my own wheels. He is such a bike lover that I think he would have done it for free, but was excited that I wanted to do it enough to pay him. He really does want to pass on the art.

Len