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Wondering about Sachs chains and their Powerlink.(20 posts)

Wondering about Sachs chains and their Powerlink.MB1
Oct 5, 2001 9:15 AM
I just installed one on our tandem. The powerlink seemed pretty loose to me-it went together very easily. I am thinking about taking the whole thing off and installing a Shimano chain.

I sure would appreciate any of your thoughts about and experiences with Sachs chains and the Powerlink.

Thanks.
About 1200 miles on mine, no trouble at allcory
Oct 5, 2001 9:26 AM
I'm a 220-pounder in the mountains, and I haven't had any problems. Main reason I switched was that Shimano pin is such a stupid idea it just p!sses me off, but I don't know of anyone who's had trouble w/Sachs.
How loose or tight is your Powerlink?MB1
Oct 5, 2001 9:31 AM
That is what my concern is. It seems too easy to remove the thing. I am a little worried about it disconnecting in use.

Thanks
No problems here...Greg Taylor
Oct 5, 2001 9:35 AM
I've used them now for a while, and have had no problems. Yes, you can take them apart using your fingers...but as long as you maintain tension on the chain, it won't come apart.

I carry an extra Powerlink in my bag...not because I think that the link will come undone, but to repair a chain if it breaks.
marketing gimmickguido
Oct 5, 2001 10:00 AM
Those "power links" they give you with chains are just marketing gimmicks. Go out and buy a chain link remover and installer tool, which you need anyway to install the chain at the correct length, and ride on a uniform, continuous chain with no weak links. That's the way everybody has done it for years. You never really need to remove the chain for cleaning or lube, only to change it out for a new one every 2000 or so miles, so what's the point of the "power link?"
I'm am kind of with you there but we have been wearing outMB1
Oct 5, 2001 10:11 AM
Shimano chains pretty quickly on the tandem. Sachs chains have been suggested to me as a possible improvement for the tandem so I decided to give it a try.

The Sachs chain out of the box was just long enough for the tandem as is with the powerlink. Otherwise I would have cut it to length and pinned it.

Seems to shift fine I was just a little worried about the link coming apart.
Hmmm....Greg Taylor
Oct 5, 2001 10:14 AM
The Powerlink works great for me:

-- SRAM/Sachs warns against breaking and reassembling their chains in the old, traditional manner, i.e., driving the pin back into the chainplate. If you believe them, it results in a weak link. Same deal with the need to use special pins with Shimano chains. So...I use the chain tool to cut the chain to the right length, reassemble with the Power Link.

-- I do take my chain off the bike to clean it, just a personal preference. The Power Link makes it easy.

-- The Powerlink chains are darn cheap, so I'm not paying a premium for a convenience that I actually, well, find convenient.

-- No, I don't work for SRAM/Sachs.
well, ok...guido
Oct 5, 2001 11:36 AM
Your point is well taken about re-assembling the chain with the power link instead of a chain tool. Shimano used to say that the special pin one of the posters hates is the only pin designed to use in assembly. Presumably, the other pins are such tight press fits, that they would distort the side plate upon entering and cause a weak link. Tolerances must be tighter now than in the old days of Sedis chains (what Sachs chains used to be called), so it is probably safer, as Sachs says, to use the "power link."
re: Wondering about Sachs chains and their Powerlink.Mel Erickson
Oct 5, 2001 10:01 AM
I've got two on our tandem with no problems so far (500 miles). I also use one on my road and MTB rides with thousands of miles, no problems. Love the link, especially on the road and tandem. The chain works fine on the MTB but grit/sand can get between the plates on the link and make it a real chore to compress. No shifting problems attributable to the chain and I've used them on 8 and 9spd Shimano setups. I highly recommend these chains.
no rollers ===> more wear on rings and cassette ??? yupCT1
Oct 5, 2001 11:31 AM
I use the SRAM link on my MTB's but I'm staying clear of it on my road bikes. I don't like the basic design.... I.e. no rollers >>> bad!

JohnG
No rollers?Mel Erickson
Oct 5, 2001 11:54 AM
Not sure what you mean, "no rollers". All my SRAM chains have rollers. How would they work otherwise? Why would you use them on your MTB, where the conditions are much more severe, but not on your road bike? Just trying to understand what you mean.
Ummmm.....are you sure?Greg Taylor
Oct 5, 2001 11:58 AM
There should be "rollers" ... they are on the ends of the chain (the smaller inside links). Small links on the inside, Power Link on the outside.
Ummmm.....are you sure?CT1
Oct 5, 2001 4:49 PM
The pics I've seen looked like they didn't have "rollers". Ahhh..... it sounds like the do have them from what you and other have said.

JohnG
I am...Cliff Oates
Oct 6, 2001 1:22 AM
and here's a picture to prove it.
cool picJohnG
Oct 6, 2001 4:15 PM
That sure looks different than the pic I saw posted a while back. ??

OH well.
JohnG
cool picCliff Oates
Oct 6, 2001 4:20 PM
I wouldn't know. I took that one last night in a moment of insomnia. Canon S10 in macro mode resized to 800x600 and a fairly high JPEG compression setting.
doh!!!Tlg
Oct 5, 2001 12:03 PM
nucklehead
6000 miles on one PC-68 chainDAC
Oct 5, 2001 11:58 AM
But I did replace the powerlink once. Just figured it was a good idea. BTW, stretch on the chain is still too small to measure. I clean it monthly with citrus degreaser, and oil it with finishline wet oil lube (it's on a touring bike). I have about 3000 miles on the one in my road bike, too, with no stretch yet. That one gets Kry-Tech wax lubricant.
No ProblemsDCP
Oct 5, 2001 12:06 PM
I have had the SRAM version (which I believe to be the same) on my road bike with no problems, but probably only about 500 miles or so thus far. It is easy to remove, although I don't really think of it as being loose because as long as there is tension on it, mine isn't loose. Great for taking off to clean the bike and to clean the chain (although, oddly, SRAM's web site recomends cleaning the chain on the bike - go figure).
Been using them for the better part of 3 yrs-no problems. (nm)look271
Oct 5, 2001 5:11 PM