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A note from BoyNigel(21 posts)

A note from BoyNigelKristin
Oct 5, 2001 8:56 AM
He wrote:

So very nice to hear from you, and how sweet that you (and the others) were concerned about me. Truthfully, I don't work that far downtown, but I do live just over a mile from where the towers stood. My wife and I were walking around after the first tower fell--we work near each other, and metmidway as our respective companies closed down for the day--and actually saw the second tower falling from about 8 blocks away. Took our breath away, and I had to console her--I was just in total shock. Something I'll never forget.

Fortunately, no one I knew was even injured in the disaster--amazingly--but there were a couple of people who worked around the block from the WTC.

Again, I'm flattered and honored by your care and thoughts, and can't thank you quite enough. Happy riding, be SAFE, and hold those dear close as often as you can.

Cheers,
Andy (Nigel)
Good newsmickey-mac
Oct 5, 2001 9:07 AM
No word on why he's not visiting us any more?
thanks for sharingbianchi boy
Oct 5, 2001 9:17 AM
I was afraid something had happened to him. Now what about Trollman/Theodorek? We haven't heard from him in a while, either, and I believe he's also from the NYC area.
Trollman has posted on the MTBreview site since the 11th.MB1
Oct 5, 2001 9:21 AM
He might even be touched that we cared. Nothing recently from him though.

Maybe he had had enough and is now posting as someone else. Any suggestions?
I was thinking maybe MiniMe or AustinDangerPowers butSpinchick
Oct 5, 2001 9:24 AM
Trollman wasn't really nasty - just mildly annoying.
that's good to hearbianchi boy
Oct 5, 2001 9:32 AM
I sort of miss the troll. If he's posting under a new identity, he's not using the trollman style that he became so famous for, although Zaphros occasionally does. Hmmm.... does Trollman = Zaphros?
I don't think they got along. nmMB1
Oct 5, 2001 9:36 AM
...Kristin
Oct 5, 2001 9:23 AM
Nigel mentioned that he hopes to have time to return soon...I just interpretted that to mean he's busy in the real world right now. I think we'll see him again.

I looked and happen to have Theo's email to, so I'll drop him a line as well.

If you're wondering why I have so many addresses...well, everyone has to collect something! No, actually, I collected a lot them when I was thinking about building the chat room.
Kristin ...scottfree
Oct 5, 2001 9:33 AM
... are you back to riding, or still on forced layoff?
Sorta bothKristin
Oct 5, 2001 9:51 AM
My doctor and PT both say to keep riding. But I can only do a few miles without pain. I've been dying for a good cardio workout, so I did 30 mintues of stairmaster yesterday. Got my HR up to 168-pretty good. No pain.

But this morning I woke up and my knee hurts. I feel great on stairs...hurts to walk. weird. Depression has set in and I was only just addicted.

Hey, to any of you who've had this. Did you use a support and did it help? What kind?
Pain?scottfree
Oct 5, 2001 10:05 AM
It's hurts so much that you absolutely can't continue, or it just hurts and you feel you should quit before you do more damage? Do you consider that you have a high or low pain tolerance?
re: Pain?Kristin
Oct 5, 2001 11:06 AM
No, it doesn't hurt so much that I can't continue. I know for sure that its bad pain. When I feel bad pain, I worry about it becoming permanent injury pain. So I hold back.

I try not to be in pain as often as possible, so I'm not sure what my pain threshold is. As a child, I'd get fillings with no novacane or gas. Today, I take enough novacane to kill a large Doberman. But I'm not sure how this relates. How does one determine their pain threshold anyway? Hmmm...on second thought, maybe don't answer that!
re: Pain?scottfree
Oct 5, 2001 11:23 AM
Well, I was just interested to note that your doc and your PT want you to ride - which indicates to me you're not doing any permanent damage, or in danger of it. So the determination not to ride is yours, based on your perception of pain. I wondered how bad it really was.

I think a lot of us -- myself certainly -- ride with pain, especially knee pain. My knees are the pits. Of course I'm 50 years old. (And yes, I use wraps or braces sometimes, and they seem to help. Maybe it's just psychological -- they muffle/dampen all the grinding and crunching sounds coming out of my knee joint!)

How it relates is, whether the pain is severe enough to really be shutting you down, or whether you are just WORRIED about it and so you quit. At some point, after exhausting all the options of fit, meds, PT, docs shaking their heads sadly etc., a lot of us have to make the decision to just ride with knee pain.

It just occured to me that, if a sports doc and PT are telling you to ride, and you're not riding, this may be an issue you'll have to confront (said the old man with the creaky knees).
Good questions...called my PTKristin
Oct 5, 2001 12:24 PM
I hadn't asked her if I should ride thru the pain, so I called to clarify. She says, if the pain is mild and isn't increasing during my ride, I can keep going. If its getting worse gradually, then stop. Well, even at a tempo pace, it begins and increases in intensity.

When I was on the metric and developed the ITBS, it was severe. At mile 60, I had gotten lost and needed to carry my bike down a flight of stairs to get back on the Fox River trail. That HURT! I hate to admit to crying but...
re: Pain?4bykn
Oct 5, 2001 11:04 PM
I determined my pain threshold by meeting in the middle of the road with a Boston terrier. I very much do not recommend it! Not a pleasant experience, but you can stand more pain than you can imagine.
Oh, and don't say the word "layoff" too loudly.Kristin
Oct 5, 2001 9:59 AM
My company was bought out yesterday. By Christmas, I could be one of those homeless bikers. Anybody got a trailer I can...er...borrow?
No but we have a spare room and extra space in theSpinchick
Oct 5, 2001 10:14 AM
garage for the "B." As long as he behaves himself in there with all the senior citizens.
omg...you mean THIS isn't the REAL world? [feign panic] nmJs Haiku Shop
Oct 5, 2001 9:36 AM
Thanks Kristin...Lazy
Oct 5, 2001 10:41 AM
I haven't been around for a while and was concerned. Next time you e-mail/chat/whatever with him, please tell him I said hi. Congratulate him on his new job too. Thanks.
Thanks, Kristin.look271
Oct 5, 2001 5:20 PM
I was concerned about him. Glad to hear he's OK.
What a warm bunch of people you are. Thanks.Nigel
Oct 5, 2001 5:48 PM
Hey folks,

Prompted by Kristin's emails of the last day or so, I figured I'd make a point to stop by again. I've been wanting to, but I've been quite busy (with good things). Since last on the board as a contributor (I've scoped the wisdom here and there as time allowed), I've been doing a bunch of freelancing--editing copy and proofreading here and there in New York. I've also joined a super band (been a bandless drummer for a couple years now, and it's taken a long time for me to find a situation I could believe in and wanted to be a part of), and we've been practicing and gigging a lot in the city and its environs. If anyone's in the NYC area and wants to check out a Britpop-style rock band, get on over to www.saintface.com. There are pictures, song samples, lyrics, gig dates, and member bios (mine should be up any day now--I'm Andy Elder, by the way). Should you come down to a show, please introduce yourself to me--it'd be great to meet more RBRers!

For all of you who wondered what happened to me and my well-being after the WTC disaster: I was truly touched by reading your responses to Kristin's post. It's so nice to be thought of in times like these, and reading that people were concerned and are pleased that I'm okay was a sweet thing--something I really appreciated. Thanks to all. :)

I'm hoping to have more time to visit again (and hopefully contribute helpful info) in the next days/weeks. When I ever land a full-time gig again (so tough in this market nowadays), I'll be able to hop on and off during the day. On the plus side, I've been riding a good amount, and have gotten into similar shape to what I was in ten years ago when I raced and rode nonstop; first time I've seen steady fitness and even weight loss in years--what it's all about, yes? Feeling good.

Again, big thanks to those concerned. You made my day! :)

Cheers,
Nigel