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How long can you keep up with Lance?(14 posts)

How long can you keep up with Lance?JD
Oct 3, 2001 1:29 PM
Ok, so I was curious... Lance climbs at around 95 verticle ft/min (in the Alps). I have a local hill that is a 9% grade for 0.4 miles. Starting fresh, I sprinted up that thing as fast as I could. Results:
Length: 0.4 miles
Grade: 9%
Time: 1:49
Avg. Speed: 13.8 mph

This translates to 102 vertical ft/min!!! So I could keep up with Lance (or any pro) for around 2 min.

Anyone else have some data?? Go try it! It's pretty fun going the speed of the pros even if it's only for a minute or two, really puts things in perspective....
apples and apples?Dog
Oct 3, 2001 1:36 PM
You seem to be comparing your going half a mile with the rate a pro would climb a 10 mile hill 120 miles in to the 13th stage of the Tour de France, or something like that?

I would not hesitate to bet that head to head, any pro would trounce any of us.

If you want to compare, compare average watts per unit of body+bike weight. That's the true comparison.

Doug
I kept up with Greg (well...)Luis
Oct 3, 2001 2:32 PM
My moment of comparison with the pros came a couple of years ago. I had ridden by myself against a big headwind for a while and I finally turned around when the wind increased dramatically. With this huge tailwind I was coming back at 34 mph on the flat.

Then I remembered that this had been Greg Lemond's average speed for the famous ~15 mile time trial in 1989.

Humbling.
I've done the climbs...Jon
Oct 3, 2001 2:48 PM
and the math, and my sustainable output is a little less than half that. Similar speed, however, on
some 9-10% grades of about the same length around here! It does put things in perspective though.
I always am reminded of how mortal we are compared to the proslook271
Oct 3, 2001 3:39 PM
when I'm cruising along one of my favorite stretches of road, around say, 24-25mph. Then I realize that this is the speed that they AVERAGE in the TDF. Mindboggling. Best I ever averaged over any distance was 22.5 in a 7 man paceline on a flat century ride (Seagull cent.).
most amazinglyDog
Oct 3, 2001 3:43 PM
Lance averaged over 34 miles per hour (solo) for an entire hour in the 1999 Tour.

This is just under my maximum solo sprint speed (around 36), which I can hold for about 50 feet.

Blows my mind. Doesn't even seem possible.

Doug
We are not worthy!look271
Oct 3, 2001 3:52 PM
We s8&k! (sorry, laughed my arse off watching that movie!)
it's like we are not even from the same planetDog
Oct 3, 2001 4:01 PM
But, I suppose its the same in any pro level event. What do powerlifters dead lift, around 1,000 pounds? I couldn't budge the bar rolling it, I'd imagine. Marathon runners average under 5 minutes per mile, and I've seen kicks at 4:15 per mile.

So, there are those from Krypton and those of us from Earth.

Doug
Not all pro athletes, think baseball :) -nmmk_42
Oct 4, 2001 12:10 PM
part's genetic, certainly. but the other part...Js Haiku Shop
Oct 5, 2001 6:45 AM
is most likely comprised of nutritionists, coaches, trainers, mechanics, and massuers. And THE BEST equipment. And TIME. all things the mere mortal cannot afford.
Can these guys party or what? -nmmk_42
Oct 4, 2001 12:06 PM
no data, only depressionJofa
Oct 3, 2001 3:34 PM
Lance averaged, I think from memory, 30.6mph on the final time trial in this year's TDF. Forgiving descents and massive tailwinds, the number of times I even see 30mph crop up on the speedo on an average hard, flattish, 40 mile-ish ride is about equivalent to the number of times I think, just for that one crucial, dreamy, delirious second, that I may be an undiscovered natural pro in disguise; that I crouch down, bent arms, a la Merckx... spin my legs imagining Anquetil... arch my back thinking Indurain... and then swiftly enter Oxygen Debt, and retire to 18-20 mph, a la me. Such is reality.

I'm the last person to build straw men or fake heroes, but really: the pro cyclist's speed and power output is extraordinary, and a league different from the casual or even commited amateur. Your figures are highly impressive, and your surmisal even more so: 'just for a minute'. But, what a minute...

Jofa
Oh yeah!!!Djudd
Oct 3, 2001 4:21 PM
but can Lance or Jan flip an omelette? I can, blindfolded with either hand. So there!!!
I can't even do that... nmJofa
Oct 4, 2001 3:00 PM