|How long can you keep up with Lance?||JD|
Oct 3, 2001 1:29 PM
|Ok, so I was curious... Lance climbs at around 95 verticle ft/min (in the Alps). I have a local hill that is a 9% grade for 0.4 miles. Starting fresh, I sprinted up that thing as fast as I could. Results: |
Length: 0.4 miles
Avg. Speed: 13.8 mph
This translates to 102 vertical ft/min!!! So I could keep up with Lance (or any pro) for around 2 min.
Anyone else have some data?? Go try it! It's pretty fun going the speed of the pros even if it's only for a minute or two, really puts things in perspective....
|apples and apples?||Dog|
Oct 3, 2001 1:36 PM
|You seem to be comparing your going half a mile with the rate a pro would climb a 10 mile hill 120 miles in to the 13th stage of the Tour de France, or something like that?
I would not hesitate to bet that head to head, any pro would trounce any of us.
If you want to compare, compare average watts per unit of body+bike weight. That's the true comparison.
|I kept up with Greg (well...)||Luis|
Oct 3, 2001 2:32 PM
|My moment of comparison with the pros came a couple of years ago. I had ridden by myself against a big headwind for a while and I finally turned around when the wind increased dramatically. With this huge tailwind I was coming back at 34 mph on the flat.
Then I remembered that this had been Greg Lemond's average speed for the famous ~15 mile time trial in 1989.
|I've done the climbs...||Jon|
Oct 3, 2001 2:48 PM
|and the math, and my sustainable output is a little less than half that. Similar speed, however, on |
some 9-10% grades of about the same length around here! It does put things in perspective though.
|I always am reminded of how mortal we are compared to the pros||look271|
Oct 3, 2001 3:39 PM
|when I'm cruising along one of my favorite stretches of road, around say, 24-25mph. Then I realize that this is the speed that they AVERAGE in the TDF. Mindboggling. Best I ever averaged over any distance was 22.5 in a 7 man paceline on a flat century ride (Seagull cent.).|
Oct 3, 2001 3:43 PM
|Lance averaged over 34 miles per hour (solo) for an entire hour in the 1999 Tour.
This is just under my maximum solo sprint speed (around 36), which I can hold for about 50 feet.
Blows my mind. Doesn't even seem possible.
|We are not worthy!||look271|
Oct 3, 2001 3:52 PM
|We s8&k! (sorry, laughed my arse off watching that movie!)|
|it's like we are not even from the same planet||Dog|
Oct 3, 2001 4:01 PM
|But, I suppose its the same in any pro level event. What do powerlifters dead lift, around 1,000 pounds? I couldn't budge the bar rolling it, I'd imagine. Marathon runners average under 5 minutes per mile, and I've seen kicks at 4:15 per mile.
So, there are those from Krypton and those of us from Earth.
|Not all pro athletes, think baseball :) -nm||mk_42|
Oct 4, 2001 12:10 PM
|part's genetic, certainly. but the other part...||Js Haiku Shop|
Oct 5, 2001 6:45 AM
|is most likely comprised of nutritionists, coaches, trainers, mechanics, and massuers. And THE BEST equipment. And TIME. all things the mere mortal cannot afford.|
|Can these guys party or what? -nm||mk_42|
Oct 4, 2001 12:06 PM
|no data, only depression||Jofa|
Oct 3, 2001 3:34 PM
|Lance averaged, I think from memory, 30.6mph on the final time trial in this year's TDF. Forgiving descents and massive tailwinds, the number of times I even see 30mph crop up on the speedo on an average hard, flattish, 40 mile-ish ride is about equivalent to the number of times I think, just for that one crucial, dreamy, delirious second, that I may be an undiscovered natural pro in disguise; that I crouch down, bent arms, a la Merckx... spin my legs imagining Anquetil... arch my back thinking Indurain... and then swiftly enter Oxygen Debt, and retire to 18-20 mph, a la me. Such is reality.
I'm the last person to build straw men or fake heroes, but really: the pro cyclist's speed and power output is extraordinary, and a league different from the casual or even commited amateur. Your figures are highly impressive, and your surmisal even more so: 'just for a minute'. But, what a minute...
Oct 3, 2001 4:21 PM
|but can Lance or Jan flip an omelette? I can, blindfolded with either hand. So there!!!|
|I can't even do that... nm||Jofa|
Oct 4, 2001 3:00 PM