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KHS Flite 800 vs Iron Horse Glory(18 posts)

KHS Flite 800 vs Iron Horse GloryJRM1290
Sep 26, 2001 2:48 PM
Which one do you think I should go with a 2001 KHS Flite 800 for $950 or a 2001 Iron Horse Glory for $820. They're both Shimano 105's, but the KHS is 853 steel and carbon fiber fork, and the Glory is all aluminum but has a triple crank... Any help would be great, thanks.
Neither!Elefantino
Sep 26, 2001 3:25 PM
For the money ($850 or so) you can get a Schwinn Fastback Comp with: Ultralight Gold Label Fastback frame, Shimano 105 18-spd group, Reynolds carbon fork, Velomax wheels, TTT Bar & Stem, Michelin Axial Pros.
You're getting a bike that's about three times better than the other two.
Possible warranty problems with Schwinn?Zignzag
Sep 26, 2001 3:53 PM
Will Pacific honor the warranty?
Re: Possible warranty problems with Schwinn?Elefantino
Sep 26, 2001 4:10 PM
No word on yet at bicycleretailer.com. They just closed the deal last Friday.
The most recent word is that Pacific is going to make GT its Wal-Mart/Kmart/Toys 4 Us brand (the Lotto team will be thrilled with that).
I would think they would have to honor the warranties because the company and all its assets — and liabilities — were taken over by another company.
If they had simply folded Schwinn, I'd be wary.
There will be no honoring of any warranites for SchwinnTrekRider
Sep 27, 2001 4:52 AM
The legal documentation we received from the bankruptcy court, as all Schwinn/GT dealers received, stated Schwinn/GT, because of the action, was basically wiping the slate clean....completely severing all dealer agreements, including warranties and warranty agreements.

What we've been told by some now ex-Schwinn reps is that Pacific is not being saddled with the debt Schwinn/GT had...the plate was clean when Pacific received it.
not exectly "clean"cyclopathic
Sep 27, 2001 7:39 AM
proceeds from sale are being used to cover debt
While true, Pacific is not absorbing any of the debt...TrekRider
Sep 28, 2001 8:01 AM
Which is why they went through bankruptcy instead of an outright sale....the company that bought the bankrupt Schwinn/GT will not be saddled by the crushing $260 million of debt Schwinn/GT had accumulated.
Neither!JRM1290
Sep 26, 2001 6:04 PM
well where are they selling the fastback for that deal? Is it on the web somewhere or at most bike shops?
thanks
Neither!Elefantino
Sep 26, 2001 7:09 PM
Supergo, which is probably the best bike shop on the Web — great people, great service — was selling them for $849 because they bought a ton of them. I also saw them discounted at the LBS that sells Schwinn while visiting friends in Calif. last month.
Good luck.

PS: I had a KHS for 11 years. Steel. Great bike.
not a Supergo fanbadabill
Sep 27, 2001 7:33 AM
I ordered a frame /fork/headset deal from Supergo last year. Was shipped only the frame and told the ad was a mistake, when i retuned frame they would not refund shipping. Finally had to get my Credit card company involved to handle dispute. For me , bad service. I will never deal with them again. Having said that the Schwinn bikes are a great deal, I would make sure on warranty and get it in writing before purchase.
2.8 times better, actuallyDaveG
Sep 27, 2001 8:17 AM
While the Fastback is probably a great deal if you don't care about the warranty, I'm not sure what formula you used to come up with the "3 times better" factor. Is that 3x faster, 3x more enjoyable, 3x other? How much better is a C-40 with that math?
re: KHS Flite 800 vs Iron Horse GloryPiP
Sep 26, 2001 3:37 PM
The KHS is very similar to a LeMond Zurich with different paint. They are not the same, but you get similar wheels, same frameset. I thought the Flite came with Ultegra not 105, but I am probably mistaken. I have the 2000 Flite 500, which I am very happy with: Reynolds frame (not 853, 520), Rolf Wheels, Tiagra/105 mix. The Schwinn Fadtback is also an excellet suggestion.
The KHS has a very comfortable ride.Zignzag
Sep 26, 2001 3:45 PM
I'm assuming that Flite 800 is similar to my KHS Aero Comp (Reynolds 853 frame, carbon fiber fork, ultegra) - their top-of-the-line road bike a few years ago. The frame and fork really take the sting out of rough roads - especially after I replaced the tires with michelin highlite prestiges and the saddle with an Avocet 02. It's a great bike for long distance riding, which is what I'm into. The fork is a little flexy, though. You might want to replace the fork if you weigh over 180 lbs.
re: KHS Flite 800 vs Iron Horse Gloryvelobear
Sep 26, 2001 6:11 PM
A friend of mine bought an Iron Horse Glory about a month ago, and seems to like it, with the exception of EXTREMELY cheap dia compe brake calipers that flex more than a body builder. I got to ride it twice, and the frame is pretty stiff,... enough so that if it were mine, I'd be clamoring for a carbon fork before I'd take it out for a ride longer than 25 miles. IMHO, I'd figure out which material for the frame you want first, since these two bikes have completely different road manners. Good luck.
Iron Horsedigger
Sep 27, 2001 4:37 AM
is dung
Iron Horsebeck
Sep 27, 2001 11:18 AM
I have a Iron Horse Victory 853 frame and have been very happy with it but would steer away from the new aluminum frames as too stiff.I also own a Iron Horse Triumph Reynolds 520 which has been a great cheap bike.Iron Horse frames are made in Taiwan and have similar build quality to Lemond,Spec.,KHS,etc.I also own and use much more expensive bikes and it is surprising how close an inexpensive steel frame can mimic a much more expensive one.Check out the Univega Modos that are now discontiued but still available.To the person who says IHorse is dung could you elaborate as you seem to be an expert on the topic.
Definitely KHS9WorCP
Sep 27, 2001 10:46 AM
853 steel. Very decent quality.
Other options?jtolleson
Sep 27, 2001 3:19 PM
Gotta agree that KHS is a far better option of the two you've mentioned, but keep an eye out for sales. I've seen Specialized Allez (105, triple) under $900 at this time of year, and several Marin options on the web are bargains.