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NEW BIKE, Questions...(6 posts)

NEW BIKE, Questions...Mazz
Sep 24, 2001 3:46 AM
Hi, just got a new bike!! My first real serious road bike.

Just a couple initial set-up quesitons for you roadies. I like to take all my reflectors off my bikes. Does that make the bike no longer road legal? I know it takes away from ride safety, but I don't ride my bike when it's dark.

Next, what kind of pump do roadies carry around? And where do you store them? Do you use those CO2 things, or do you just carry a pump in one of the jersey pockets? Or do you strap it on your bike?

Another question, sorry I'm must be getting annoying. Pedals. Is there a reason why I should have float on my pedals. The bike came with mountain bike pedals, which is really annoying, and it has some float. Now this maybe because I'm used to downhill ski bindings, but I don't like the fact that my foot can wiggle from side to side. My mountain bike pedals don't have much float either, and the road pedals that I have on my commuting bike don't either. Any resources on pedal float and what not? Any recommendations on pedals? Oh yeah, what kind of screw positions do the Campy cleats have?

Jeeze, I'm a road newbie. Well, thanks in advance. I'll catch y'all later.
re: NEW BIKE, Questions...Len J
Sep 24, 2001 4:02 AM
Most people remove reflectors, I think its illegal for a shop to take off the reflectors, not you.

Some people carry a frame pump, some co2, and some both. there is a thread further down on this topic. use search to find.

Float allows your leg to find its natural position relative to the pedal surface. Remember in road biking you are turning the pedals over 90 to 100 times per minute for hours at a time. If you lock yourself into an "unnatural" position (for you) you can create some (usually) knee pain. If you have had knee problems in the past, you may want more float. If you try limited float, and develop knee pain, you will know you need more float.

Don't know about the campy pedals

Good luck

re: NEW BIKE, Questions...dzrider
Sep 24, 2001 4:17 AM
Remove reflectors if you want to.

I strap a small pump to the seat tube because CO2 devices add to the cost of flats. It's personal preference.

Float, like many other issues, is a matter of comfort. I prefer fixed cleats and use Look pedals with the black cleat. What saves others knee pain bothers my achilles tendon. Again it's comfort and varies from one person to another.

Many of cycling's details require some experimentation. It's good to learn from others, but sooner or later you'll have to try it and see what works for you.
Sep 24, 2001 4:21 AM
Depending on the state you live, it is required by dealers to have reflectors on the wheels, and in the front and back of the bike. Whether it is unlawful for you to ride without them depends on the laws in your state / locale.

Many people prefer frame pumps like the Zefal HPX, or the Blackburn. The handles are spring loaded and fit between the head tube and seat tube. CO2 inflators are nice for a quick fill.

Some people like no float in pedals, others want more. If your cleats are not positioned properly, the lack of float can cause knee problems. I reccomend LOOK, Time or Speedplay pedals (if you like lots of float). Campy pedals use the same mounting holes as LOOK. I do not reccomend Campagnolo pedals, Campagnolo makes some fine products that are well designed and thought out, IMHO their pedal system is not one of them.

Quick weigh-in on campy pedals -- I've used Look and Campy,bill
Sep 24, 2001 5:58 AM
prefer Campy (they just feel more stable to me). This is pretty subjective, of course. I also used a fairly low-end Look pedal (236 model, I think), before switching to Record Pro-Fit for the past couple of years, so that must be considered, as well. Some people have reported clip-in difficulties with Pro-Fits; maybe it's shoe-specific, but clipping in was no more difficult than with my Look pedals, and, if anything, the campy's clip in more definitively, if that makes sense.
Float is Your FriendRich Clark
Sep 24, 2001 7:20 AM
At least, it will be when your knees get older. Float lets your feet, ankles, and knees find their natural positions relative to the "virtual disc" of the pedaling circle. Forcing your knees into any other position will guarantee trouble somewhere down the road.

If you already have shoes/cleats for the existing pedals, I'd suggest riding with them for a while and taking very careful note of the angles and cleat position that feel most unstressed. Then if you decide to go with something fixed later on, you'll have a better idea of exactly how to set them up.