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Fixing a flat (clinchers)-any suggestion/recommendation...(10 posts)

Fixing a flat (clinchers)-any suggestion/recommendation...tegra
Sep 19, 2001 10:33 AM
hi there. when fixing a flat on the road what brand of patch do you think is best for clinchers? and any good pumps that you can also recommend? tried my mountain pump but can`t get near 80 psi. thanks!
re: Fixing a flat (clinchers)-any suggestion/recommendation...Lone Gunman
Sep 19, 2001 10:58 AM
I leave the patch kit alone if I flat on the road, I have tried patching and reusing tubes and have not had much success. Others will disagree but if a tube is salvagable, it goes to trainer duty. Park has glueless patches, Delta is another kit. I carry 2 tubes on the road. Inflation, I use a Blackburn Airstick to get about 20lb into the tube and tire seated then use the superflate CO2 to finish the job. The Airstik will inflate reportedly to 160 psi but you will be pumping for a long time to get to 120. The CO2, psst on the trigger in bursts, and you have an inflated tire. The 12gram unthreaded cartridges from one of the Mart stores are cheap, and the inflation is quick and controlled with the trigger.
re: Fixing a flat (clinchers)-any suggestion/recommendation...Gus Riley
Sep 19, 2001 11:55 AM
I use Park glueless patches (and have had very good luck with them)and carry one extra tube with me. The topeak road Morph is an excellent on-bike pump. I used to carry a smaller Trek pump, but would never get enough air pressure and I'd have to pump it a zillion times before I got enough in the tube to limp home. One time I broke the little threaded nut off a new tube while using that smaller pump.
Ditto Park glueless rave, and Zefal HPX is a great pump (nm)RhodyRider
Sep 19, 2001 12:02 PM
re: Fixing a flat (clinchers)-any suggestion/recommendation...dzrider
Sep 19, 2001 11:57 AM
Carry at least one new, tested tube. Getting patches to stick in wet weather is hard.

I use Park glueless patches when I get home and ride on patched tubes. I'd rather find slow leaks in the basement than on long rides.

Try very hard not to let the new tube touch the ground and carry sand or anything else inside the tire.
I am this board's leading expert on that (hey, it's SOMEthing)cory
Sep 19, 2001 12:04 PM
I can't explain it, but I'm the undisputed Flat King of North America. I had five in the first 15 miles of the Fall Sierra Century on Saturday, and it was only an untypical day, not a rare one.

Forget the mountain pump. It's not made for road pressures. I like the Zefal hpX, but Blackburn and Topeak also make good pumps (there are others; those just happen to be some I know).
I've had no luck with glueless patches--at least half fail. With conventional ones (I think the brand name is Rema--they're in a blue-green box at bike shops all over the world), I've had no problems--maybe one or two have peeled off in nearly 30 years, and that was probably my fault. I use patched tubes with as much confidence as I do new ones, and often have tubes with five, six or more patches on them (most I ever counted was 13).
Some people insist you shouldn't use a tire lever to get the things off the rim, but I can't do it barehanded with road tires. You can find actual patching instructions on several sites (try www.sheldonbrown.com; he's got everything else).
Be sure to look in the tire for the thorn or whatever that punctured the tube--sometimes they stick there, or break off, so you need to run your fingers around inside the tire to feel for it or you'll be patching again a mile down the road. When you reinstall the tire & tube, partially inflate the tube (by mouth is fine) so it will hold its shape, then put it back inside the tire and work as much of the bead as you can onto the rim without a tool. If you do have to use a lever, be CAREFUL not to catch the tube between the lever and the rim or you'll punch a hole.
Sounds complicated, but it isn't. I can do it in about three minutes.
All hail the undisputed flat king. Hail, Hail! nmMB1
Sep 19, 2001 12:18 PM
Bad KarmaJon
Sep 19, 2001 1:51 PM
Cory,

You realize you're expiating bad karma from a previous lifetime, don't you? Or maybe you're just not
watching where you're going! My record? 17 flats in one year, three years ago. But then, I became
MUCH more observant of road conditions and learned to brush both tires off whenever I pass over
any unquestionable terrain. As they say, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
also check the rim strip to make sure it covers the rim holes NMTig
Sep 19, 2001 2:24 PM
re: Fixing a flat (clinchers)-any suggestion/recommendation...mackgoo
Sep 19, 2001 1:38 PM
Just carry a tube. I have a little CO2 blaster, but I've never had to use it.