|uLTEGRA VS. 105||Indiana Rider|
Sep 17, 2001 12:38 PM
|My new bike has again been back ordered for 3 more weeks. They have offered me another (at a lower cost) that has the same frame but has 105 inlieu of Ultegra componets. I have riden with 105 before and had no problems but I was looking forward the the upgrade. Anyone out there used both and will a novice century rider like myself really notice the difference?|
|I bet there are other differences.||MB1|
Sep 17, 2001 12:52 PM
|Rims & tires, pedals and seats etc. I'd be ok with 105 but I would want the best hubs & BB I could get. Ask them if they will upgrade the wheels & BB for you at the Ultegra price.|
|re: uLTEGRA VS. 105||grzy|
Sep 17, 2001 1:34 PM
|Tell 'em to pound sand and that you want the bike you ordered. If they can't supply it go to some place that will. With the web you should be able to have that bike in your hot little hands in less than a week. Be worried about any shop that isn't committed to getting you what *you* want and tries to foist something of lesser quality on you. This sounds like the old "bait and switch" left from the auto dealership days, but maybe not. You won't notice the difference right away, but you will in time. The 105 typically doesn't last as long and it weighs more. Some folks are content with 105, some with Ultegra, and still others must have DA. It's highly personal.|
|I don't think its that simple||DCP|
Sep 17, 2001 3:07 PM
|I suspect that 105 works as well as Ultegra and lasts just as long for the price of a minimal weight penalty. I can't prove it, and therein lies the magic of these equipment debates comparing two similar products, whether from the same manufacturer or Shimano - Campy.
Most of us probably have better equipment than we need for what we do with it. Why? Because it makes us feel good about ourselves, and if that gets you out riding more (and assuming you haven't mortgaged the house to get it), then it has served a noble purpose. You wanted the "upgrade" to Ultegra. It really doesn't matter if, in fact, 105 is just as good. It's not what you wanted.
Wait for the bike that spoke to you originally or find it elsewhere! Why compromise?
|I don't think it's that difficult||grzy|
Sep 17, 2001 3:27 PM
|Working on a slew of other bikes besides my own affords me the opportunity to see things, worn, failed, and out of adjustment. Sometimes all of the above. I try to repair what I can and salvage anything worth keeping. The fundamental difference is that the 105 shares the same dimensions as the Ultegra components, but the pivots on the Ultegra are a little better, and the DA pviots are even better. An easy place to see this is to comare either the front or rear der.s. The 105 stuff is the first to get sloppy followed in due time by the Ultegra and the DA stuff lasts much longer. When it comes to weight the higher end stuff is at best significantly lighter and at worst only marginally lighter. Ride the stuff hard enough and mess with it long enough and you'll start to appreciate the subtle differences. If you don't care for and maintain the stuff it will not last nearly as long.|
|Get what you want...||DavidS|
Sep 17, 2001 3:51 PM
|I agree with the earlier reply. That is, if you really wanted the upgrade to Ultegra, for any reason, get it!! In all reality, the Ultegra is better made, lasts longer and weighs less. But this is not anywhere near as important as how you personally feel about the bike when you see it, think about it, or ride it. The stuff you really want on this bike will, IMHO, make you just that much more inclined to get on and ride. You really don't want to be thinking 3 months from now "why didn't I just get the Ultegra?!"
Just something to think about.
Sep 17, 2001 3:56 PM
|Yup, get what you want no matter why you want it. That is the big picture - the rest of the stuff is just details.Tthe weight and longevity are only minor issues if you were never happy with the bike in the first place.|
|re: uLTEGRA VS. 105||drippin wet|
Sep 17, 2001 3:46 PM
|Get the ultegra. I've pounded my for 8,000 mile with no problems. I agree with the other responses...tell this place to pound sand and get the bike elsewhere.|
|If it was a car...||Elefantino|
Sep 17, 2001 5:27 PM
|and you ordered leather but it was delayed, and the dealer offered cloth, would you take the cloth? Probably not. I doubt the shop is trying to bait-and-switch you. Probably just thinking that you're itching for a new bike. I echo the others. Wait for what you want.|| |