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New roadie........need help(8 posts)

New roadie........need helpRED5
Sep 16, 2001 9:24 PM
Hey guys. I am new t the whole roady thing. I mountian bike and want to have another venue to train for races. Also, I want to start participating in some of the charity rides (like the Cali. AIDS ride next June). What I need from you guys is a reccomendation on a good entry level bike for a larger guy. I weigh 220 and stand 6'3". I've had some people recommend the Specialized Allez, others say no. What to do. I am looking to spend $1500.00 or less if possible. Thanks guys. Good riding.
The three most important things are:Me Dot Org
Sep 16, 2001 9:43 PM
Fit, Fit, and Fit. Test ride several bikes in your price range. Take them out for more than 10 minutes. Take some corners and hills if possible. How does your body like it?

The bottom line is that there is no clear winner in terms of component 'bang for the buck'. The most important thing is how the bike feels to you.

I had (crashed it - hence the past tense) a Bianchi Veloce which I rode on the California Aids ride this year and found it very comfortable. (A little under $1500)I might worry that the frame might be a little flexy for you at 6'3" and 220, but you should try it. I love the geometry. The biggest negative would be the weight, it's a little heavy, but a great bike to put a lot of miles on.

You will hear some people say that aluminum has a tendency to ride harsher than steel, carbon or titanium, but a lot of this is a matter of personal preference. A lot of big guys really like aluminum bikes because they ARE stiff. So even though you're talking about some long distance rides, I would check out aluminum (not only Specialized, but Cannondale). And this is from a guy who rides a steel bike!

Good luck.
re: 3 wordsdzrider
Sep 17, 2001 4:13 AM
Fit. Fit. Fit! Try to get saddle heights and distances from the seat post to the handle bars pretty similar to ensure a fair comparison and ride a bunch of bikes. If possible, check out climbing, descending and riding in the drops. Pick a bike that feels good. If you notice an especially comfortable seat, try to get that seat on whatever bike you buy.
re: New roadie........need helpElefantino
Sep 17, 2001 5:47 AM
I'm 6-5, 210, so here's my big-guy opinion:
• In addition to "fit, fit, fit" remember "frame, frame, frame" and "feel, feel, feel." Most tubing was designed for medium-size bikes and stretched for us big guys. That's why a Cannondale 56 cm CAAD5 frame rides one way and the 63 cm frame rides another. I tried the 63 and hated it. Tried the LeMond Buenos Aires ($1399) and loved it, even put a down payment on a 61 cm. But then I made the mistake of trying a Trek carbon, loved it, the budget went out the window, the wife hollered, etc. But it was worth every penny. That said, here are my not-as-well-known recommendations, to be taken with a grain of salt because I'm not you:
• The LeMond. It has a long top tube, which is nice for us big guys. Shimano 105 group, Reynolds 853 steel, a nice ride.
• Univega Modo Volare ($1299): Columbus Thron steel, Campy Daytona 20-speed group, all Italian everything. A great deal, considering that a Bianchi that costs $200 more has cheaper tubing and a lousier component group.
• Fuji Rubaix Pro ($1299): Reynolds 853 steel, all 105, incredible Ritchey wheelset. A great value.
• Marin Verona (about $1200, I think): Columbus Thron, all 105. Marin makes good bikes.
• Giant OCR 1 ($1099): This is my son's bike, and he (6-1, 200) loves it. It's all 105, aluminum, and a compact frame, but I've tried it and for me it rides better than Cannondale or the Allez.
Good luck!
Big Guy - Try Cannondalejagiger
Sep 17, 2001 6:53 AM
I rode in a Century recently & this guy mentioned that he chose the Cannondale 1000 (I believe) because it had wider tires. He had a problem with flatting on smaller tires with his weight. Just a thought to consider.
re: New roadie........need helpFatGuy
Sep 17, 2001 8:55 AM
You might consider putting back part of your budget to buy a comfortable saddle. The right saddle makes a huge difference on longer rides.
If you live in the Bay Area....CJ3
Sep 17, 2001 8:59 AM
...check out Medina Cycles in Berkeley. They are the retail arm for Wrench Science, which you'll find links for all over this site. Great people, comitted to fitting you on a custom bike. For $1500 you can get one of their low end bikes (high end to me), or at least a lot of very useful information if you choose not to go the custom route.
I am 6/1", 220, and recently purchased a univega modo vincere. Works great for me.
Sep 18, 2001 6:00 AM
Also try Klein. i'm 6'0 and go 210 and just abandoned my giant for a klein. nice and stiff but not as much of a filling loosener as the giant. really nice bike. you could probably get a Quantum T for about 1500.