|Airborne owners - help!||caj|
Sep 14, 2001 2:39 PM
|Hi, i ordered a 50cm Valkyrie with a 1 1/8 steerer tube but the problem is they run out of stock and had to wait over 3 weeks. Airborne suggest if i`m willing to go with the Zeppelin(no additional charge) with a 1 inch steerer tube they can be mailed with in a week. my questions are - should i wait or go with the Zep and is there a difference between a 1 1/8 and a 1 inch steerer tube in terms of performance? the thing that worries me also is that - in the future there might not be any forks, headsets, stems and spacers(1 inch) available in case it needs replacement or an upgrade. your comments are greatly appreciated. thanks!|
|re: Airborne owners - help!||Akirasho|
Sep 14, 2001 2:50 PM
|... considering the frame upgrade, it might not be a bad deal.
I doubt that the average rider would notice any real performance difference 'tween a 1" and 1 1/8" alloy steerer.
While 'tis true that in the future, 1" steerers may become harder to find... you rarely upgrade your fork (or quality headset for that matter). I've got a lot of bikes... and the vast majority of my road bikes have 1" headtubes. In fact, my latest fork acquisitions have been 1" Ouzo Pro Aeros. Yes, integrated headsets and larger steerers will prevail for the time being, but I wouldn't worry too much on a 1" headtube purchase at this time.
Remain In Light.
|re: Airborne owners - help!||Chris Zeller|
Sep 14, 2001 2:57 PM
|Maybe I'm missing the issue here but my understanding is that all Airborne frames come with a 1-1/8" steerer tube. The issue is one of headset and fork selection. Are they out of the forks or steerer? My understanding is that all stems will fit on any threadless headset. 1" or 1-1/8" steerer.
I would recommend a 1-1/8" headset only because it is a bit stiffer. Seven is proud of offering all their frames in 1-1/8" but I think that the difference is nominal.
This sounds like a terriffic opportunity to upgrade to a better frame. I'd take it. If I understand this correctly, this won't impare any upgrades in the future. You can always take the extra $100 and put it toward an upgraded fork etc. And if you want replace the headset and fork with 1-1/8" later if you like.
|i`m talking about the frame.||caj|
Sep 14, 2001 4:17 PM
|i`m talking about the head tube(frame). my understanding is that they changed their head tube size to 1 1/8 recently. and the only available size they have for me right now is a zep. and yes, zep is tempting me.... so, i`m kinda confused right now.|
|i`m talking about the frame.||Ray Still|
Sep 14, 2001 4:41 PM
|I ride a 50cm zep 1" head tube I have a 1"full carbon fork and steerer I have no problems at all I love the frame I would go for it Especially in the smaller frame you are not going to notice the difference between 1" and 1 1/8" If you do decide on the 50cm zep The only problem you may have is with the seat tube water bottle mounts they are located low and for the front der clamp to work and have the cage installed you need a couple of chap 1.00 items anyways if you get the frame email me and I will be happy to guide you thru it.|
|i`m talking about the frame.||Dave Hickey|
Sep 15, 2001 4:06 AM
|Go with the 1" and get a Chris King headset. It will out last you and the bike. I really don't think you'd notice the difference between 1" and 1 1/8".|
|re: Airborne owners - help!||Rich Clark|
Sep 14, 2001 6:05 PM
|A $200 discount on a Zep is nothing to sneeze at, but in the Grand Scheme of Things, $200 isn't going to matter much to you in a couple of years. At that point what will matter is that you picked the right frame for your riding needs.
The real question is why you chose the Valkyrie over the Zep in the first place. If it was just to save the $200 difference in the frames, then this is a good chance to re-think that decision. Really, what's an extra $200 when you're spending $1500-2000 on a bike anyway? You probably should have ordered the Zep to begin with, and here's a chance to rectify the mistake and not even spend the $200.
If it was because there's something about the Valkyrie's geometry that you preferred, then nothing's changed, and you should wait. Particularly if you feel the Valk's relatively shorter TT or taller headtube will fit you better. Fit, after all, is everything. (Maybe you can convince them to give you an extra discount since they can't meet their normal shipping schedule.)
The Zeppelin is a more refined frame design, no question; there's a reason it costs $200 more. But it's still a wrong choice if it doesn't fit.
|Thanks Guys! I`ll call Airborne and.... Ray||caj|
Sep 15, 2001 4:35 AM
|Guys, thanks for enlightening me on the Zep! I`ll call Airborne today - and of course i`ll go with the Zep. and Ray thanks, but i think i`m going to use my camelback but in case i decide to install a bottle cage in the seat tube definitely i`ll e-mail u. Well, gotta go hit the trail.
Again, thanks to all who responded!