Sep 7, 2001 9:10 AM
|Anybody ride a Richard Sachs frame?
How heavy are they?
How's the ride?
Are they worth it?
...thinking about a new frame....
|re: Richard Sachs||jaybird|
Sep 7, 2001 9:30 AM
|They are the best looking bikes I have ever seen. Never ridden one but I have talked to Richard a few times and you can tell that his main focus is perfection. All bikes are built by him. How much is the frame you are looking at?|
|re: Richard Sachs||bear1|
Sep 7, 2001 10:51 AM
|I have no idea how much they are. I remember a review of a Sachs in an old Bicycle Guide from the late 80's and I thought it was a real beauty. i came across his website last night and they STILL look good, and the testimonials on the page were pretty positive. I'm pushing 40 and I thought maybe a nice 40th b-day gift to me would be a new frame. i ride a cannondale right now, and while it's light and stiff its not real comfortable.
anyway...if I find out the price, I'll let y'all know
|re: Richard Sachs||SpectrumTi|
Sep 7, 2001 9:45 AM
|I have not ridden one, but have seen a few up close and personal. They are absolutely f'ing gorgeous. The owner said it fit like a glove and that is THE most important thing. Richard Sachs is known to be quite a perfectionist.|
|how much are they anyway? (nm)||Warren128|
Sep 7, 2001 9:52 AM
|re: Richard Sachs||Jack S|
Sep 7, 2001 9:56 AM
|weight is irrelevant with these|
|re: Richard Sachs||davet|
Sep 7, 2001 10:05 AM
|re: Richard Sachs||7ti|
Sep 7, 2001 12:52 PM
|I have never ridden one, but I have seen a few and they are works of art. As I understand it, Richard Sachs is a perfectionist who builds each bike himself. As a result, be prepared for a long build time. From what I've seen and heard, they are well worth the wait.|
|re: Richard Sachs||TriBuddha|
Sep 7, 2001 2:38 PM
|2,700 (approximately) to 3,500 (anniversary edition) again dont quote me but I recall those numbers. Get on the velonews.com tech board and search for previous post. A few guys there ride them and can give first hand experience. Not long ago one poster claimed to have three custom steel bikes Waterford, Sachs and Serotta. Also had pictures of the Sachs, in the traditional red and white. They are full of information about the buying process. Wea re thinking of custom bikes for next big anniversary, his and hers. Nice way to keep the wife from moaning about the cost of new bike, get her involved to. Only problem is she keeps lusting after a C40 in Mapei team colours!|
|Best damn bike ever!||DMoore|
Sep 7, 2001 4:30 PM
|I've had mine since Sept. '98. I can't tell you the weight of the bare frame and fork, but my built up bike is 19 lbs 12 oz. That's for a 60 cm frame with full Record 10 group, including pedals and carbon seat post. The saddle is San Marco ERA; wheels are Open Pro with Revolution spokes and Veloflex Pave clinchers; Ibis ti stem and ITM 225 bars. |
By comparison, I have a Litespeed Ultimate, also 60 cm, which weighs 17 lbs. 6 oz. Except for crits and long climbs, I'll take the RS every time. It's very comfortable, extremely stable at speed (50 mph on local mountain downhills) and of course it fits like a glove. For club rides or weekend centuries, the RS is the way to go. I know some of these are raced, but it would break my heart to go down in a crit and trash a frame that's a work of art.
Last I heard, prices were around $2500 for frame and fork for a conventional frame, more for the fancy Anniversary Replica with ornate lugs. Worth it? That's your call, but my answer is a resounding "Yes!" If you're after the latest hi-tech fad, this isn't the bike for you. Obviously it's heavier than a carbon, Ti or Al wonder bike, but that's not what this bike is about. If you're looking for craftsmanship that achieves the level of art, with perfect alignment, perfect filing, perfect lugs and perfect paint (courtesy of Joe Bell) then it's the right bike.
Drawback: the order backlog. Mine took 7 months, and I doubt if the present delay is much different. It was all worth it, though, the moment I opened the box. I have several good bikes, including the above-mentioned Litespeed as well as a Brian Baylis, a Bill Holland, and 2 Ciocc's. The RS is unquestionably the one I consider to be my "best" bike. If they were all stolen tonight, Richard Sachs is the first person I'd call tomorrow morning.
|If you're looking for a Sachs jersey,||mickey-mac|
Sep 7, 2001 8:03 PM
|RS is selling off some old gear on e-bay. He's got four or five jerseys and a vest up for auction.|| |