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Where going around in circles!(12 posts)

Where going around in circles!Dutchy
Sep 6, 2001 3:41 PM
Obviously my post " why are litespeeds so controversial" created some controversy. That wasn't the intention but it didn't surprise me either.

To compare X with Y is futile from a "fans" point of view as some people have prejudice one way or the other. The people that are objective are the only ones to see both sides of these arguments.

The problem is a lot of fans think they owe something to a company and will defend a product when their only connection to that company is the product.

What it comes down to is this: No one wants to think they have out layed good money for an average product. It is embarrassing to a person when after they buy something that they think is good they hear "you bought a POS". It is an offensive statement they will hurt most peoples feelings.

So what happens next. The person who bought the product then defends it so he won't feel so embarrassed, it becomes personal and eventually the conversation degrades to name calling.

This isn't directed at Litespeed or any brand in particular as it applies to all products people buy. X bike vs Y bike, Mac vs PC, Ford vs Holden (aussie cars), Nikon vs Canon, Playstation vs Nintendo etc.

It does make for good conversation the problem is that SOME people take these things way TOO personally. Unless you actually work on the production line making these products there is no need to get so defensive of a particular brand etc.


PS My Litespeed post was legitimate I have honestly never seen one.
you're making me do it...Dog
Sep 6, 2001 3:48 PM
An Amish boy, and his father were visiting a Mall. They were amazed by lmost everything they saw, but especially by two shiny walls that could move apart and back together again.

The boy asked his father. "What is this father?" The Father (never having seen an elevator) responded, "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is."

While the boy and his father were watching wide-eyed, an old lady limping slightly with a cane slowly walks up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady walks between them and into a small room. The walls closed and the boy and his father watched, small circles of light with numbers above the wall light up. They continued to watch the circles light up in the reverse direction. The walls opened up again and a beautiful 24 year old blonde (of course) stepped out...

The father said to his son. "GO GET YOUR MOTHER"!
you're making me do it...Lone Gunman
Sep 6, 2001 4:06 PM
Watched an Amish kid, hat and all, on a pair of rollerblades skating uphill last week.
you're making me do it...DINOSAUR
Sep 6, 2001 4:15 PM
Could you please supply me with the address of the building that elevator is located in?
you're making me do it...Me Dot Org
Sep 6, 2001 8:21 PM
...where exactly is titanium mentioned in the Bible?
Sep 7, 2001 5:44 AM
In a once lost Chapter of Revelations, it is prophesied that the "titan", or "Satan's metal" (titanium), would become ubiquitous, but rapture would follow only for those who have embraced the "Aegis" (the modernization of the Greek word "aigis", literally "goatskin" - in reference to carbon fiber's ability to protect one from the vibrations of the road).

the problem is...timmae
Sep 6, 2001 4:12 PM
Lazyrider is psycho!
Sorry. You are correct...Dutchy
Sep 6, 2001 5:07 PM
I realised the irony of my tittle after I had posted it.
Here I am saying "where going around in circles" and I am perpetuating this problem. Sorry.

Sorry. You are correct...ACE
Sep 6, 2001 11:00 PM
So, just where are we going around in circles?
This whole Litespeed flap reminds me of my brother ...bianchi boy
Sep 7, 2001 6:28 AM
He's got a story he tells about someone he knew that raised the chickens. The guy told him that if you hold a chicken upside down by its feet and tuck its head under a wing, you can roll it up in a ball and it will fall asleep. Then you can just pile up a bunch of sleeping chickens like basketballs. Every time my brother tells this story, the whole family starts laughing and we start bugging my brother about it. My brother then gets really pissed and tells us all to screw off. Needless to say, we ask him to tell us the chicken story every time we see him.

My point is, people say all this stuff about Litespeeds because they know it will piss off the LS owners. It does, and then everyone else enjoys watching the LS owners get all bent out of shape defending their bikes. It's all very humorous if you have a sense of humor and realize it's all a big joke. The truth of the matter is that most cyclists would probably love to won a Litespeed, just as they would love to own just about any expensive bike.

My only problem with Litespeeds is that I think they're butt ugly, like just about any unpainted ti bike. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and there obviously are plenty of cyclists who like the bare metal look. If someone gave me a Litespeed, would I keep it? Sure would, but I probably would get it painted.
More From the Book of RevelationJon Billheimer
Sep 7, 2001 7:02 AM
For any discerning students of prophecy--such as the acutely insightful Dog--we have entered
the apocalypse and the period of great tribulation. The arrival of titanium and cf (goatskins) was
the necessary prelude to the real mark of the beast--Seven. Beware Seven Ti owners, you may
gain the whole world but lose your own soul!
Not to prolong this, but...mr_spin
Sep 7, 2001 7:03 AM
Litespeed will happily paint your frame one of eight different colors, some of which look pretty nice. You can also get them polished. I like the bare, unpolished Ti look myself.