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Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eithe(36 posts)

Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eitheNot a computer genius
Sep 6, 2001 10:51 AM
r not riding very much, uses slime/Tuffy tireliners, or is just lying.

Flats happen often on a road bike. How could you not with only 1mm of rubber between the sharp objects and 110 psi??
re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eitheIndiana Rider
Sep 6, 2001 10:57 AM
I tend to flat 3 to 4 times a year... it seems to run in cycles I have most of them in single month or 2 span.
I am not sure your flame bait is worth a reply but here goes...MB1
Sep 6, 2001 11:07 AM
Sure stuff happens but if reducing the number of flats you get is one of your performance criteria it can be done. Maintenance, careful tire selection-kevlar belts or thick rubber-and paying attention to the road surface have allowed Miss M to have only 1 flat so far this year. True she doesn’t weigh much but she rides a ton. I have had only 3 flats this year-2 were rim strip failures. I also ride a whole bunch and am fairly light.

Humma who is much heavier than we are also historically has reported less than 1 flat a year and I am sure there are others out there. It can be done any you can do it too.
Hummah hah rides a freakin' cruiser! nmNot a computer genius
Sep 6, 2001 12:34 PM
Still the "F" word is the "F" word. nmMB1
Sep 6, 2001 12:37 PM
A few things....Not a computer genius
Sep 6, 2001 12:46 PM
1. If youre getting pinch flats on a road bike your either an idiot/blind/ have no bike handling skills or you weigh 350 lbs.

2. tire mounting techniques has nothing to do with it. Its either seated or its not. Sure you can pinch the tube with an iron but that doesnt count as a flat on a ride.

3. Keeping newer tires on, helps a little but not much.

4. Clean roads and avoiding debris can definitely help. If youd speed up and quit staring at the ground and swerving maybe you wouldnt be so good at this. Maybe you guys ride on bike paths.

5. I use all high dollar tires. Doesnt seem to help.
Maybe you are just unlucky?? nmSpinchick
Sep 6, 2001 12:49 PM
Unlucky for 20 racing seasons?Not a computer genius
Sep 6, 2001 1:04 PM
What are the chances?

I guess all my teammates and riding buddies are all unlucky as well.
Must be either bad roads or bad Karma where you ride. nmMB1
Sep 6, 2001 1:15 PM
Sep 6, 2001 4:03 PM
Baaad karma with that 'tude.
re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eithedHuez
Sep 6, 2001 11:12 AM
I guess that depends on what you mean by "not riding much." I don't ride at all from mid-November to late February; otherwise, I usually ride 120 miles/week. It's been three years since I had a flat while out on the road. If flats are happening often to you, perhaps you should keep a more careful watch on the road and on the condition of your tubes and tires.
re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eitheKudzu Kaptain
Sep 6, 2001 11:20 AM
Amen to that. Actually, I did put over 2500 miles of road riding last year without a flat.

But the year before...well I had two flats in the Great Clermont Triathlon alone. Can you say race over? Both within the first three miles and on each tire (must have hit something that caught both wheels).

This year, three flats to date and one off road flat.
re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eitheJack S
Sep 6, 2001 11:20 AM
Well genius, how 'bout LUCKY? or has the luxury of riding on fairly clean roads? and avoids riding over sharp objects and takes the effort to swipe tires clean after they do? Yeah, flats happen, but not all that often to some... and they aren't all lying about it either. Do you have a case of puncture envy?
I've only flatted once this yearOnrhodes
Sep 6, 2001 11:23 AM
I do ride a lot (250-300 miles a week) and I am not a lyer. I am just good. My normal flat rate is about 2 a year. My disclaimer is that I only weigh 130lbs so pinch flats don't happen, and I am intelligent enough to avoid debris in the road.
re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eitheMikeC
Sep 6, 2001 11:44 AM
Many road bike flats are pinch flats. Do a good install job, keep your pressure right, and avoid potholes, and that's one category you can pretty well write off.
Many punctures are caused by road debris that has been swept to the shoulder. That's where you'll find nearly all the broken glass. Most of the roads I ride have shoulders. I ride close to the white line, but not on the shoulder, and miss most of the trash.
One puncture this year. Vittoria Corsa CX with 2200 miles on it.
Then call me a liar...mr_spin
Sep 6, 2001 11:54 AM
I have 5500 miles so far this year, on target for about 8000. I've had maybe 7 flats all year, and three came in one day last weekend.

I use Conti GP 3000 tires and ultra light tubes, running 120psi. No liners, no slime. Nothing fancy.

I ride on some crappy roads and even dirt sometimes.

Maybe I'm special. Or maybe I just know:

1. how to mount a tire
2. when to change a tire
3. how to avoid debris

Learn these three things and maybe you can avoid flats, too. And maybe you can stop whining, too.
I've never flatted in 5300 miles...Bruno
Sep 6, 2001 11:59 AM
Can't explain it but I have never had a flat since I bought my road bike in april, 2000. I had 4 sets of tires from different brands, some expensive, some cheap, some 20mm and some 23mm. Putting the right pressure, the fact that the streets where I ride are clean and that I change the tires often may be the reasons for my luck.
I think it's murphy's law.mk_42
Sep 6, 2001 12:04 PM
I generally get flats in spurts. I'll get 2 or 3 in one or two weeks and then nothing for the rest of the year. Last year I got a flat in the first block of one ride. Since I was so close I changed it at home and went out again. Flat again, about a block farther. Unrelated. It's just like that with flats I think. Sometimes you go forever without one and sometimes they're at every corner.

re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eitheJay
Sep 6, 2001 12:04 PM
I've ridden 2450+ miles this year so far and 2 flats and both on the rear tire... You want to call me a liar, fine, doesn't bother me at all. I even commute on not so great roads and put only 90-95psi in Conti GP3000s, although it is the wider 25mm size and I'm a light 128lb rider.

No flats in 3000 miles nmsidley
Sep 6, 2001 12:13 PM
Sep 6, 2001 1:07 PM
No flats in 2500 miles, no Tuffies, 700X23 Conti Super Sport tires. This post is a bunch of crap.
depends. road surfaces and productk
Sep 6, 2001 12:32 PM
For me, five this year but ever since using conti tubes w/Verdedsteins sp? I haven't had one in a month with 250-300 miles per week over some rough routes @140psi. Anything's possible.
Maybe YOU use $hitty tires! (nm)Rusty McNasty
Sep 6, 2001 12:33 PM
pants on firedeke
Sep 6, 2001 12:41 PM
re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eitheRoadrage
Sep 6, 2001 1:17 PM
By the tone of your post, it could be karma.
one in the last 6000 miles....C-40
Sep 6, 2001 1:55 PM
Using Conti GP 3000 tires and ultralight butyl tubes. All it take is clean roads, a watchful eye and some luck.
Just curiousGeorge
Sep 6, 2001 2:13 PM
Do you ride a C40 or just dream of one?
I ride one, it's wonderful....C-40
Sep 7, 2001 9:04 AM
The most enjoyable bike I've ever owned, but not by a huge margin. I enjoyed my Tommasini Sintesi almost as much, but the C-40 absorbs vibration better.
Sep 6, 2001 2:35 PM
I have suffered one puncture this year in just under 5,100 miles and I was at fault. I put new Velox on my rear Helium and just left a little bit of one eyelet exposed. The rear popped in a t'storm . . and, I deserved it. NO slime or liners, and I ride Axial Pros (the black ones) with Michelin Ultra Lite tubes, and Vittoria CX and Conti Sprinter tubs.

The key is I inflate my tires to proper pressure before each ride and deflate them to about 50 psi afterwards after a quick wipe down and inspection. I also use new tubes when I change tires and never repair tubes. But, the largest factor in my favor is . . . Bubba in these parts drinks his beer out of a 'kin' instead of a bottle. Just be careful and don't roll over a flattened can on a steep, winding descent . . . it'll make your life flash before your eyes. ;-)
3500+ miles per year, avg 1 flatDCW
Sep 6, 2001 4:21 PM
per year over past three years. For past two years I have ridden Michelin Axial Pros, Michelin Butyl Lites, am careful about inflation. I get about 2500 miles out of my Michelins, rotating front to back. (Several years ago, I tried some Lunar Lites and found a higher flat incidence.) I may be lucky, but I'm not a liar.
Theres a lot of luck involvedDutchy
Sep 6, 2001 5:31 PM
I used to get a flat about 2 times per year, most of the time it was nails, screws, little pieces of wire, the sort of stuff you can't see on the road unlike glass which is easy to spot. I now use Mr. Tuffy tyre liners and have only had one flat in the last two years, and that was a piece of wire about 3 inches long that went through the side of the tyre somehow and then through the other side. I expect to get a flat this weekend now that I have tempted fate:-)

re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eitheMe Dot Org
Sep 6, 2001 8:30 PM
Back in the 80's, I rode a touring bike with fairly heavy touring tires. I used to wear those tires down to the cord, (sorry, didn't have a cyclometer so I can't tell you exact mileage) and I really did flat maybe once or twice a year.

Now I'm riding more miles on a faster bike with lighter tires, (at a higher tire pressure) and yes I do flat more. If I don't count the Vittoria Open CXs I bought this year I've probably had 4 or 5 flats. Count the Vittorias and add another 7 or 8...
re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eithemackgoo
Sep 7, 2001 12:42 AM
In the last five years I think I've gotten two flats. Both were because my tires were so worn I shouldn't have gone out in the first place.
Or must be living right ...bianchi boy
Sep 7, 2001 4:07 AM
One flat this year in 4700 miles, and 3500 miles since my last flat. Zero (0) flats last year.
re: Anyone who says they only flat once or twice a year is eithescott
Sep 7, 2001 8:11 AM
Be more careful might help. Last year I got zero, yes zero flats in 5000+ km of riding. This year I'm not doing so great with four of them however

Flat 1 was due to an old tire
Flat 2 was due to a cheap tire
Flat 3 was due to a really bad set of train tracks taken at the bottom of a hill going 60+ km/hr.
Flat 4 was due to a bit of glass in the tire

Most flats can be avoided by

1. Cleaning your tires off after riding through glass
2. Keeping your tire inflated
3. Replacing tires before they get to warn down
Sep 7, 2001 8:44 AM
One flat for 3000 miles? Please. Get off the bike path and throw those thorn-resistant tubes away